http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06X5HYynP...

are we under or over the table?

So... is that table really there, or not? (Pass the peyote.)

From the "Tibetan Book of The Dead" It's like Dante's description of the many levels of Hell. Each Bardo consists of certain properties. As you ascend on the path to enlightenment you pass through the Bardi. Sometimes they are related to near death experiences but it's a common Buddhist practice to meditate on the qualities of each Bardo with the goal of assimilating the qualities and propel oneself along the path.

they vote, therefore they are dangerous. at best they are useful idiots

what's a Bardo?

Like Richard Fineman's comment about scientists and artists: They surround themselves by mystery on three sides and take a step towards the fourth. The trick is to work yourself into a position were you have exhausted all rational possibilities and must resort to the unknown or irrational.

We don't know what we don't know. We can't even imagine it. But if we get to a mental point were our normal flow that is our world becomes confused or befuddled, we can break through to something just lightly off. That slightly off thought is creativity. Since everything else fits into the existing model, it is modeling however clever it may seem.

point for grasshopper

I don't know what magic mirror you're looking in, but mine is reflecting nothing familiar at this point.

I did but converted her with deprogramming. Her family are uberliberals who spout MSNBC as if it's original source. Anybody who derives their world view from TV news is pretty shallow. Liberals aren't bad, they're just taught to be that way.

Ah, little grasshopper. It isn't the actual drum beat that's important but the act of drumming. Like the snowflake, each is different but many of them are not each snowflake but an aggregate of snowflakes. All are snowflakes. Now we will ascend to the third Bardo and meditate on our own unique qualities that like the mirror that is memory reflect only what we understand.

Mine is the standing like subjects and chanting in unison. Children do not understand what they're saying and what they're being taught about what they're saying lacks plenty and ties in with that 'obey' horse shit.

my objection is the pledging to an inanimate object

a guy had to spout liberal stuff just to get laid
well as long as you didn't marry one of them..

..no. My drum beat is not the same as yours. If it is..STOP COPYING ME!

Why so afraid of religion? A small minority adopt religious training as they grow older so it doesn't seem to hurt as much as publicly educated liberals hurt us. Political thought seems to find a lot of reinforcement whereas religious thinking is always questioned. Kids challenge everything anyway and religious tenet seem to be the first to go. Maybe it should be the other way around and socialist tenets should be challenged just as strongly. It just isn't the case.

As the Vietnam war ran down, a guy had to spout liberal stuff just to get laid. People are more lemming like than not.

Oh My! Chant, Chant, Chant. Being a card carrying libertarian, with a party so grass roots that it almost doesn't exist, I resemble that statement and add my own: If we all march to a different drummer aren't we all being the same?

All mine ever said was "talks to much in class". I guess they had us pegged as youngin's already.

point for rutabaga