Yeah, sort of imperfect... is the following truth, rumor, or, as ACA groupies might say, "just anecdotal"?

http://cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/barbara-bo...

see the home page image at plusaf.com for tomorrow, Thursday, the 30th... and hell, check Friday's too, when it's up...
:)

Horse's head?

CG, sorry I've been out of town for the past few days...
The ACA was 'sold' to Americans as a cost-saver. Undeniably so. And anyone who's dumb enough to believe that adding thousands or millions of MORE consumers into a system can, in any way, IMMEDIATELY lower overall costs for the delivery and insurance parts of that marketplace is, well... in some kind of reality distortion field. The universe doesn't EVER work that way.

But it was rarely, if ever, sold or described as a 'long term savings' in terms of getting a ton of people locked out of the system to GET to medical facilities so that, in the LONGER run, they can get better care and cost themselves and the entire system LESS by getting and staying healthier!

And the mainscream media never raised a flag or a voice to try to change misunderstandings like that.

It was a cluster-fk of misinformation and misunderstanding and mis-set expectations.

And by the time any real numbers surface, most of the creators of the debacle will have someone else in office to pin the blame on.

And it's not just the red or blue side... BOTH/EACH 'team' lies regularly but never takes any blame or responsibility for their actions or mistakes. VERY UN-Gulchy, y'know?

LOLOL!!!

Yeah, I suppose...but to cut and run right when you're asked to explain your own argument in detail is WEAK. Pet peeve! Thanks O.A. :)

I wouldn't be too upset. It looks like victory to me! :)

I super hate when you finally nail someone's lack of reason to the wall and they refuse to respond...or run away like you just asked him to explain how his sperm can be taken without him knowing. I'm still waiting for that answer!

It would have been unintelligible.

Annoooyyyyyyying.

I really wanted to hear the answer! arg

Probably. That was the only thing that one could come up with.

Yes.

Thanks... was the point deduction the answer to my question?

Someone took a point so I'm giving it back.

Bull shit. Making people buy a product they don't want or need is immoral. Insurance is a primary cause of high medical costs and forcing everyone to buy such insurance just makes the cost higher. Insurance does not include "health" care to cure the underlying causes of sickness or for illness prevention. That is the economical approach but it doesn't make pharma companies or insurance companies profits. Insurance does not respond to my needs; it just insures that there will be higher costs and very narrow guidelines for treatment. The tail is wagging the dog and I refuse to be forced to be part of the problem against my will.

yes, it's different. it was my choice. I got to decide if the cost was worth it.now, I have no choice. I do not even live in the country. I do not use US healthcare. thanks, CG. also, thanks for the recent push against patents, also supported by the administration you voted for and admire. Your thinking has cost me many liberties. you actively worked for those liberties to be taken away. I do not think of you and will no longer respond to your comments or posts.

"you support having a gun put to your head to buy a PRIVATE product."
It's almost no different from medical care subsidizing the poor and irresponsible, except in this case people pay their own way instead of making some other buyer of medical services pay.
If you're comparing it to a hypothetical system in which people who fail to plan for needing medical care just don't get medical care, that's a different question. I've never lived under such a system. All my life someone had to pay for the irresponsible. Now we're trying to make people pay their own way.

you openly promote ideas and actions that are harmful to me, that remove my freedoms.

Explain how it was freeloading before. I know that answer but I want YOU to explain it. See if the hitch in your gitalong is apparent to you yet.

And I meant that you are nuts.

But I like pears...

You lack logic.

+1 for truth.