To me, the most amazing thing is that with all the intellectually astute, articulate people in the Gulch, with a variety of points of view, I've still been right on absolutely everything. :) And a +1 for Eudaimonia.

well, we all have blind sides. On that post, I felt(thought) the same I felt (thought) with the mortgage debate. Oh, people signed up for stuff they couldn't pay for...actually, yes, that was happening thanks GOVT, but as well, people who made reasonable decisions lost their homes. wtf?! You can and should say YOUR cronyism hurt millions of families making reasonable decisions, relying on reasonable claims you made to them. It is not victim-hood, it is fraud perpetrated against the citizens of the US, operating within the law and making reasonable assumprions that their govt was not prioritizing one group over another. Do I say to jbrenner's retired parents-you should have prepared for the fact that the US govt would throw you as bond holders under the bus in the auto bail out? no legal precedent was that bond holders were the FIRST to be reimbursed in a bankruptcy. They made their decision based on logical reasoning. Good luck for your children's education and their careers. I think we are screwed.

Odd post.

And for you Eudamania, thanks for posting and starting the conversation (debate).

Just be sure to disagree with my actual points!

It certainly helps!

Thanks, Mimi.

The thread was a fine read, Eud. Thanks for that.

Yes! Logical, rational debate between mutually respectful, consenting individuals. As long as we can agree on that, we can have lots of fun disagreeing with one another and likely learn something from it in the process!

what? I have to disagree with you in order to make you think? :)