Ukraine Is Becoming Another Verdun. (The EU's Open Border, Socialist Policies Are The Reason.)

Posted by freedomforall 5 days, 19 hours ago to Politics
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"everybody just says, "[Vladimir] Putin's awful." I agree. "Ukraine should win." I agree. But they never tell us how they're going to achieve that after four and a half years. They criticize everything that Trump has said, but there's one constant. If you want to call all of his ideas crazy, whatever you want to do, there's one common theme.

He doesn't like all these people killing each other for no apparent purpose. There's no change, really, in the momentum of the battlefield, and none of his critics and I've read a lot of them this week - say, "Donald Trump is wrong. This is what we must do to help Ukraine win the war and restore its territory."

Nobody will take that leap.
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He was blasted as Putin's puppet. The Europeans said he sold them out. The Canadians say he's on Putin's side. Zelenskyy said he was disappointed. But let me just remind everybody: We have given $140 billion to Ukraine. We are the ultimate guarantor of the safety of all the European countries that are talking about more aggressive action.

They should take more aggressive action. But if they get in a jam with Russia, who are they going to call? Us.

More importantly, what has Europe been doing in the last four and a half years? It's the greatest purchaser of Russian natural gas."


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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 2 days, 6 hours ago in reply to this comment.
    What are we supposed to take away from this about Europe and Russia? Seems like nothing.

    China and the US is a very different event. And Iran is a waste of missiles because we are only using missiles. Trump made a BIG mistake going after Iran. It will cost us both houses. While we should absolutely remove Iran’s government. The US people do not have the intestinal fortitude to do it, and it will not be as easy as Venezuela. It could be just like Iraq, and would flip much faster. This is not 2002. Trump, probably urged by Hegseth, fucked this up. Marco Rubio knew better.


    Palmer Lucky is a good libertarian, but he knows nothing about this, and Anduril is a clown show. When the administration stops propping them up, they will fail.
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  • Posted by 4 days, 10 hours ago in reply to this comment.
    "Anyone still think it is ok for Iran to have them?"
    Agree with you completely.
    Observe North Korea in recent years and imagine what they would do if
    they controlled a resource that is vital to the rest of the world's economy.
    That is the reasoning behind the current military action against Iran.
    Trump has not done everything he promised to do, but his actions are
    strong evidence that his goal is to Make America Great Again.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 4 days, 12 hours ago in reply to this comment.
    I have to go with Thor on this one. If Russia could run over Europe in 2 months it would have rolled over Ukraine 4 years ago.

    I'm no expert here, but I suspect China running over Taiwan would be like Russia is now running over Ukraine. A tough nut to crack. The only difference is China may go limited nuke to do it.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 days, 12 hours ago in reply to this comment.
    Indeed. Met with the CNO this morning. Clued in to defense capabilities and strategy, particularly Navy, but not ignorant of other services. Europe, particularly France, UK and Germany, would sink every Russian ship and sub in 10 minutes. Don’t leave out the Swedes and their diesel, AIP subs.
    In the air, Europe is way ahead.
    On the ground, Russian tanks are a joke.
    There is nothing left, and taking is a lot harder than holding.
    Russia is a paper tiger, except for a one-time nuclear event, which is the end of Russia as a culture. China is the real enemy.

    Where did you get this idea?
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 days, 14 hours ago in reply to this comment.
    Russia can not take Europe in 2 months. Not a chance. I was listening until that complete nonsense.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 4 days, 14 hours ago
    Yep.

    No one would worry about crushing Putin, except for his nuclear weapons. Anyone still think it is ok for Iran to have them? Idiots.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 4 days, 14 hours ago
    I agree with the general push of this article -- Trump should have kept his campaign promise to the Right to stay out of needless wars. That includes Ukraine even though it began on Biden's watch because he hugely expanded it (just as LBJ did not start the Viet Nam war but became responsible for hugely expanding it).

    But I disagree on several other counts.
    1) There is no realistic possibility that Russia loses. In fact they're within a few weeks of the endgame.
    2) As Vance said in his European speech, it's high time we disengaged completely from Europe and from the Middle East.
    3) NATO is disintegrating even without our help. Turkey has signed on to the new Makkah pact, so anyone who expects them to join us if/when a NATO callup is attempted is kidding himself.
    4) The whole world knows about our shortages of ammo and missiles, and of capacity to manufacture more. If Russia really wanted to take over Europe they could do it in under two months, regardless of any response by us.
    5) Similarly, China could grab Taiwan before we could stop it.
    6) Both 4) and 5) suggest that Russia and China should already be at war with us. Clearly we do not dare exchange nukes with them. The most likely reason they are not openly fighting is that it would impoverish them as well as us.

    Like it or not, the next US president, if not the current one, will simply have to accept that we are no longer the world's dominant power. I'm not even sure that we can remain dominant over the western hemisphere, though nobody is currently challenging us on that.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 4 days, 20 hours ago
    Yeah, I thought it was rather cheeky of EU to blast Trump over getting Russian diesel on the market as they were sucking up Russian natural gas. This war never would have started if the Ukraine government hadn't treated the Russians in Donbas like crap. Make it its own country and end this.
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