Trump, Biden, and Epstein

Posted by $ Abaco 1 week ago to Culture
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Driving home from the office today I saw a bumper sticker. "Donald (redacted) is in the (redacted) files." Like a lot of us I thought that if he was in the files doing anything wrong the Biden administration would have surely outed the whole thing. But....they didn't. Then, I thought, "Why didn't Trump out the perps?" One good reason?...He's guilty. Biden and/or a lot of Democrats?....Guilty. The reason why it's been so mishandled is that both parties are guilty. You can't tell me that nobody's guilty. I still can't get over how the Trump admin released some documents with the perps' names redacted and the victim's names shown...clearly a form of doxing. What a mess. I still think Epstein was the most prolific blackmailer in the history of mankind.


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  • Posted by $ 11 hours, 53 minutes ago in reply to this comment.
    All pedos are compromised, aren't they? If somebody in my family or business was guilty I'd want them punished asap. They'd be safer in the back of a cop car than they'd be with me.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 1 day, 17 hours ago in reply to this comment.
    What a pedo uses~~and THEN feet first.
    Just be sure to wake him up if he passes out and before he bleeds out.
    Some help would likely be required.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 2 days, 23 hours ago in reply to this comment.
    well, they were COMPROMISED.

    If you had someone in your family or business that had been compromised for YEARS. Would you prefer to find out via the newspaper and that person no longer picks up the phone.

    Or would you prefer to pull them aside, and get some details to protect yourself, and your family, your business from the UNKNOWN amount of details they may have been feeding your competitors, your "vested enemies", etc?

    Clearly you would want that time with them. Those countries have intel agencies as well.
    They need to start working the 6 degrees of this Fried Bacon!

    I don't understand people who don't realize this immediately. I guess my "game theory" approach to live gives me that edge.
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  • Posted by $ 3 days, 14 hours ago in reply to this comment.
    Outing the pedos would be destabilizing(?) I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you. Just that the thought is disturbing from a high level.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 4 days, 16 hours ago in reply to this comment.
    If the guilty pedos never get punished, then I agree that it's only a bit better,
    but I'm still hoping to see the guilty punished (and not just pedos.)
    I doubt it will be according to my suggestion: public impalement on the national mall.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 4 days, 17 hours ago
    Honestly, the problem with releasing it ALL... Is it destabilizes everything too quickly.

    I believe Trump was doing the right thing. He went to the UK and had them call back the Ambassador.
    He went to other countries, and did similar things. I think someone from the middle east was shortly disappeared. THAT's the proper way to do it.

    And you know the CIA was screaming at him: "NO... We need that person over a barrel for intel!"

    It's all sickening. But Trump would have NEVER kicked Epstein out if he was part of that disgusting crew. I still trust Trump...
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 4 days, 17 hours ago in reply to this comment.
    yeah, I believe anyone who didn't WILLFULLY play the game, got "inducted". Someone even said be careful about attending parties with congress, you could wake up with a polaroid of you with a 5yr old you don't remember...

    This is how you control people.
    In Hollywood, I think they call it "paying your gravy". Don't play where they can CONTROL you... They don't let you get wealthy in their system.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 4 days, 21 hours ago in reply to this comment.
    Epstein richly deserved either what he did to himself or what Benghazi Killary Hillary (ha, ha) or someone else did to his sorry stuck-out neck.
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  • Posted by $ 4 days, 21 hours ago in reply to this comment.
    I honestly believe that the users of what Epstein was offering didn't need to be coerced or drunk. They were/are regular partakers. Recently heard an interview of a guy who, in some sort of activist effort, snuck back onto the island. He said he was beaten, detained, and terrorized. The system is still in place. Nothing has f'n changed. Because....we have allowed it. I have to wonder....What would society do if a video or two came out showing household name/academy award winning actors in the act. Probably just go with, "It's AI". I think it'd be too much, especially give the political tribalism, for most people to admit that what they're seeing is real.

    I've recently, a couple times, heard people point out that Earth is Satan's domain. Religion or not...one must at least mull that over given all the shit we're seeing...
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 5 days, 19 hours ago
    The whole Epstein Island Thing always seemed like overkill to me. It's really simple. You are hosting a mixer, fundraiser, social -- you make sure that your target is one of the guests, assuming a male target. During the shindig -- the target has a few drinks, maybe one is doctored. A nice looking server escorts the exceedingly happy and compliant male target into a room near the party. Once in the room, the two become very comfortable. The booze is really kicking in. A hidden door opens into the room ... a couple underage lassies enter, and become part of the party. Of course, there are cameras and mics from all angles. The youngsters leave the room. The male target is awaken some time later. Sufficient time passes, he gets shown a sample of the videos. Said male target is now In The System. What you Do Not See: a plane, Lolita Express or otherwise, flights, Islands, etc. Easy-peasy.

    As for the Epstein Files ... So what? Epstein got around, anyone who was anyone went to his parties, socials, is shown in a photo or two. I am a Math Guy ... kinda miffed that I was never invited to any of his parties. This Epstein fellow has a rather shady and come from nowhere past -- who were his handlers? How did he go from being a nobody to a near billionaire? He had some connections. I believe that he was funded and placed in a position to create the atmosphere for political blackmail ... and it was effective. The biggest part of Being Effective is the global advance of normalizing deviancy, degeneracy, the vile and putrid. The word used in the original post: Guilty. See what we are doing in The Gulch and pert-near everybody else? We have the perspective, now, that they are All Guilty. That's a rather large brush ... and it shows either low-resolution thinking or just tossing hands into the air and saying I Give Up, I have better things to do. Perhaps Thomas Massie was not guilty, so they got rid of him... he refused to play ball. As indicated in the OP ... the players might wear different uniforms, but understand this, there is really only one team.

    As for the economically illiterate guy with a 500-word vocabulary being in the E-Files .. for me, it's all a Where's Waldo. We've gotten to, and been at the point for the past couple years, where the AI is so good, that the deep-fakes are ... Is It Live, or Is It Memorex? Can you tell what is real? That's also part of the Effectiveness. Create an environment where the common person can no longer distinguish fact from fiction ... where Objectivity is relegated to the ash bin.
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  • Posted by $ 6 days, 15 hours ago in reply to this comment.
    That's very interesting. Seem like cool people. I happen to think that Epstein's operation actually WAS massive blackmail operation. This all gets down to values and ethics. I'm faced with the harsh reality that my take that every pedo should be thrown into a wood chipper really puts me into a fringe minority in our society. Freedomforall points out that maybe Trump is using the information to control his enemies. If so...that makes him only slightly better than, say, a Dershowitz, or Prince Andrew. I give no quarter to any pedo, no matter how much doing so might benefit me.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 6 days, 20 hours ago
    I agree with you on 'there are lots of guilty' in both parties.
    Based on the evidence that has been released, however, I don't see Trump as one of the guilty.
    There is another explanation of the reluctance to expose the guilty.
    Trump may be using the withheld evidence as a control mechanism to convince
    the guilty to help accomplish Trump's MAGA goals.
    (In Trump's place, given his experience in the first term, it's what I would do.)
    At this point, based on the accomplishments to date, imo, that's more likely than Trump being guilty.
    If so, that might change your last sentence.
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