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Drudge, Ebola, and the Tipping Point

Posted by Zenphamy 9 years, 7 months ago to Government
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Should we fear Ebola arriving in the US. You damn right we should, simply because our government is telling us not to worry.

As the article says: "The government keeps issuing assurances: there is no threat. Its problem is obvious: people know that officials lie. The more likely that bad news will create panic, the more certain the public is that the officials are lying, spinning, or otherwise deceiving. “When the going gets tough, the flacks get spinning.”
We can be sure of two things. First, Ebola victims will fly into the USA. Second, this will be officially dismissed as no threat. Case by case, we will be assured: “No problem!”"

At the same time, news reports from a couple of weeks ago of a strange new respiratory illness spreading throughout the US and of a number of children that are being stricken with paralysis from an unknown cause have disappeared from the news. I sometimes wonder if they lie just hoping that it won't be too bad or it's just automatic for them to do so.
SOURCE URL: http://teapartyeconomist.com/2014/10/04/drudge-ebola-tipping-point/


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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 9 years, 7 months ago
    Thanks for this article. I'll take issue with one point from it though:
    "At some point, without warning, the public may decide to begin making personal preparations. [snip] There is no way to know when this will happen, but the government’s bureaucrats will not be able to reverse it if it does happen. Panic will spread."

    People in a position of power often think that people having information and acting on it leads to panic. This is reverse from the truth. People not having information and not feeling like they take meaningful action leads to panic. People finding out about a threat and making personal preparations is actually a good thing.
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    • Posted by Technocracy 9 years, 7 months ago
      I agree with you on where panic starts.

      I know that I have been making some preparations for if and when this spirals out of control. Hopefully it won't but it is too late to prepare at that point.

      I would also imagine a lot of the members on this site are doing the same thing....making what preparations seem appropriate to them.
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    • Posted by RonC 9 years, 7 months ago
      People making personal preparations (personal choice) is something government always resists. From a Progressive Politician's point of view, we are too dumb to choose best for ourselves. A rhetorical question, Who dumbed us down?
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      • Posted by DeadRight 9 years, 7 months ago
        They also want you to need them and thus vote for them that will pretend to take care of you.
        Look, most of these people come from extremely dysfunctional families and are still trying to sort out their own childhoods. They have no business trying to run a government.
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  • Posted by ObjectiveAnalyst 9 years, 7 months ago
    I heard a report from one Doctor that the numbers are such that an outbreak is quite probable. He stated we have no means of producing the experimental antivirus that was grown on tobacco leaves in a quantity that could stop an epidemic and the hospitals are not equipped to handle such an outbreak... Why we are not restricting air travel from the infected areas is beyond belief. Sure, we have statistically more dangerous diseases already, but does that justify introducing more? Send specialists there to help but don't allow unfettered access to our shores from people ill equipped to self diagnose or allow the potential for those willing to lie on documents to get here.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 9 years, 7 months ago
    Yesterday morning I brought up Fredomainradio's podcast on this and suggest you check it out. Also, the level of unpreparedness I have seen demonstrated in the case in Texas makes me sure that we, as a nation, are not prepared for ebola.

    I am using a new term, "President Ebola".
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  • Posted by sfdi1947 9 years, 7 months ago
    Paranoia is the pandemic I fear most, and the media is busily feeding the Beast to generate new revenue.
    Hemorrhagic fevers are controllable with good science, reasonable care and limited quarantines. Most Hemorrhagic fevers are not aerosol and require the transfer of bodily fluids, blood, urine, sexual relationships & Etc.
    The chances of a non-weaponized biologic creating a pandemic in the U.S. or a similar environment is not betting odds, so let us just pray for the sick people and the sick profiteers in the media.
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    • Posted by Technocracy 9 years, 7 months ago
      Nature ignores our hubris on that front.

      Just be glad that so far it hasn't become airborne yet, but nothing prohibits it from doing so.

      Epidemics in the past have wiped out significant portions of the human population.

      Medical care now is much better than it has been in the past, but that is of limited comfort in this case. Medicine's track record on a virus based disease is piss poor to spotty at best.

      They have an experimental vaccine that seems to help, but is not perfect. Other than that all treatment is purely supportive care, nothing that affects the course of the actual disease.
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      • Posted by sfdi1947 9 years, 7 months ago
        You are so wrong! Remember the Freakin Maine! Ebola, unweaponized, is not aerosol, it is blood borne and on a 1 - 10 infection scale, it is only a 2. Media driven paranoia is our whole problem, soon they'll be shouting remember Dallas because one or two people died, then they'll want us to bomb West Africa out of existence.
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        • Posted by Technocracy 9 years, 7 months ago
          sfdi1947 -

          over react much?

          Did you actually read what I said?

          Right now it is relatively easy to avoid infection, but there is no natural law that makes it impossible for it to mutate to be more infectious.

          I am pointing out that our medical treatments and theories are not perfect. And we have had plenty of epidemics in the past.

          That does not mean I am saying nuke west Africa.
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          • Posted by sfdi1947 9 years, 7 months ago
            Did not say that you did, rather I implied that Nature and we cannot ignore our media enhanced notional hubris. Saying that they would do a "Remember the Maine" campaign for their own corporate gain, recalling the damage the yellow journalism of the 1890's, and what we did to Spain at their behest.
            Ebola is an ancient bug a single RNA Strand Virus, it has not in more than 2000 years of known existence, able to even replicate without host protein. It was first catalogued (Well Hemorrhagic Fevers) by the Abyssinian Kings of East Africa around 150 BCE, but then ignored by the ignorant Western Europeans until the 1950 when it was noticed again as missionaries got out into the back country. How will it now magically defy its own history and grow the second strand (Without Human Help) that is required for mutation by replication?
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        • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 9 years, 7 months ago
          No only that... People in the USA who were treated survived because of the care they got to treat the symptoms long enough for the body to recover. In Africa, that basic hospital care of intravenous fluids, etc., is unavailable, so victims die. Ebola was "discovered" i.e., _identified_ in the 1970s, but it did not spring up from inanimate matter. Before it was given a name, it was just getting sick and dying.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 9 years, 7 months ago
    The Hot Zone: The Terrifying True Story of the Origins of the Ebola Virus by Richard Preston.
    This author almost had it right. Though it could still be a possibility. What if an Ambassador from one of the affected nations flew into Washington, DC with asymptomatic Ebola then became full blown with the virus. Maybe be the prez would change his mind.
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  • Posted by DeadRight 9 years, 7 months ago
    The obomination wants open borders and amnesty.
    He can't have the reality of deadly disease importations act like a big public opinion wall to his evil whicked plans.
    So spin the bs wheel and lie and lie big, like hitler.
    That is why the government stenographers are repeating this bilge about peace and safety.
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