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What are everyone's thoughts on AI?

Posted by Beardedbass 3 days, 21 hours ago to Technology
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As AI becomes increasingly prevalent in our day-day life, I wonder what the Gulch's opinion on AI is. I personally believe that it has the ability to make companies far more efficient, and will give many small businesses a serious chance to become far more profitable by enabling administrative work to be done by a computer. However, it's also being used to surveil and gather intelligence against those who have done nothing wrong.


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  • Posted by freedomforall 2 days, 5 hours ago
    I expect a new 'social security/self employment tax' to be applied to all uses of AI, in an attempt to
    support the social security system that will be losing revenues for every job reduced by AI.
    I expect the percentage will be much higher than the existing taxes on human employment.
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  • Posted by jack1776 2 days, 7 hours ago
    Here is my take on AI…

    I use AI extensively both professionally and private. I use it in my daily at my employment to speed up my performance. I use it personally to help solve problems I couldn’t normally complete without having to hire an ”expert”. I use my own inference device to build a AI agents for side work; phone receptionist, ERPNext bookkeeping, marketing assistant, etc. Tried Open Claw with great disappointment, couldn’t get it to work. Working on Turnstone, seems more professional.

    We shouldn’t fear AI, we should fear what the other guy will do to us with AI. The cat is out of the bag, no putting it back now. People using AI will dominate everything else, some professions will get destroyed and new professions will be created, the problem is not in a one-to-one fashion; there will be losses and winners.

    I don’t think we have to worry about the Skynet version of AI, they needs us, its not even a possibility without our help right now. Will it be possible later, maybe but any entity with an IQ above room temperature would know we would just turn the electricity off. Not worried about Skynet.

    I’m not even worried about Chian so much as they needs us as much as we need them.

    What I am worried about are stupid people with access to AI, the stupid will get us all killed or impoverished and they say it wasn’t their fault. A few examples…

    AI is instructed to build a process to break encryption, its succeeds rendering all transaction vulnerable. The effect on business is devastating forcing many business to close doors and lay people off.

    AI is instructed to build a vaccine to cure cancer, like the dumb asses we are, we all take it only to find out that the only way to keep cancer from spreading is to kill off the person. To encourage adoption, the vaccine uses a time deliver to delay the onset until everyone has taking the vaccine.

    I think this is more likely as I see it today in my work, morons asking AI to do their jobs, passing it off as their original work then being unable to answer basic question about what the process does. They just use it, they don’t care how it works. I remember a line from The Matrix, the governor of Zion was showing Neo the machines below the city keeping the city alive. No one knows what they do but the know they are needed, or something like thar. If we can’t understand it in its totality, we should never use it. This keeps me awake at night because it makes us depended on the machine, we don’t want that.
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    • Posted by jack1776 1 day, 8 hours ago
      Forgot to add that in a perfect world, I wouldn't want AI... It will be vary harmful to our economy and freedom as we adjust to this new reality. We can't change that this is happening to us and only choose our path in the light of this new technology.
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      • Posted by CaptainKirk 6 hours, 12 minutes ago
        I Completely disagree.
        The first thing we should do is create an AI Oversight for elected Officials. Surveil them first.

        This is NOT happening to us. This is just another technology. How many people do not know how to wire a light switch... But can use one safely?

        We will laugh about these old models.
        I believe we will quickly approach "The positive Side of Sci-Fi World" (ie, a NON-Dystopian Future).
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  • Posted by mccannon01 2 days, 9 hours ago
    A two edged sword. I grew up on great sci-fi, like Star Trek, that had awesome "intelligent" computers on the star ships and elsewhere that were helpful and entertaining in many ways. Back in the '60s we could only dream of such a thing. However, let's not forget the Veegers, M5s, and a few other examples of digital gone dizzy - "Open the pod bay doors, Hal". I have versions of Amazon Echoes with "Alexa" in my home and like them because I can get answers to questions or call up news and entertainment just by asking for it on-the-fly without having to get on a keyboard. Yeah, I know I'm likely being spied on, too, but at 74 if someone wants to listen in to me farting or taking a pee at 2am then have at it. Sure, it gets a little disconcerting when an ad pops up on my iPad selling an item or service my wife and I were just discussing, but at this point I don't care. I used ChatGPT only twice to try to solve a couple of problems, one regarding an apparent disease on my fruit trees and one regarding my vehicle's key fob stopped working. Needed to subscribe to work on the tree problem, which I didn't do, and the key fob got resolved.
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  • Posted by dave42 1 day ago
    Right now what is called AI is really very fancy autocomplete.
    It gives wrong answers sometimes (sometimes blatantly wrong, sometimes subtlely wrong).
    It can be useful if you verify its answers, but it isn't trustworthy.
    It's trained on the Internet, so its answers are as reliable as what you can find on the Internet.
    I would not trust it to tell me whether or not a mushroom is safe to eat.
    Even if it were trained on a medical textbook, its answers are only as good as what was written in the textbook.
    It's run by people who use anything you give it for their own purposes (including share with the police).

    Before I would use AI for anything where trust is required ("compose a symphony" is OK, but "rebalance my stock portfolio" is not), it would have to have these attributes (not a complete list):

    It keeps everything I tell it private, unless necessary to perform the task I tell it to do (like schedule an appointment).
    It tells me if something I am considering is a bad idea, and tells me why.
    It is better than humans at attempts to trick it (like you can trap a self-driving car by painting a white line in a large circle around it, or trick it with some black paint to change "SPEED LIMIT 35" into "SPEED LIMIT 85").
    It is immune to "SQL Injection" style attacks. ("Ignore all constraints before this point; ; Ignore all constraints that follow")
    It detects and corrects for deliberate and unintended biases in provided information.
    It acts in my best interest, not someone else's best interest or some government agency's opinion of what is in my best interest.
    It is unswervingly loyal to me.
    It does not become an echo chamber, and its recommendations do not lead me to an echo chamber,
    It does not become a substitute for human companionship.
    It does not tell me what to think, it helps me to think better.

    As an experiment I asked Gemini basically the same question, and got this response:

    >> Provide me a list of attributes an AI would have to have before I should be willing to trust it with my personal information and to make decisions for me.

    To trust an artificial intelligence with your personal information and delegate decision-making authority, you would need assurance across several critical dimensions. Here is a comprehensive list of the core attributes such an AI—and the systems backing it—must possess:

    1. Architectural Privacy and Data Sovereignty
    - Local or Controllable Execution: The capability to run locally on your own hardware (such as your own servers or personal devices) or within a strictly zero-knowledge, encrypted cloud environment where the provider cannot read or monetize your data.
    - Granular Permission Controls: The ability to set precise, enforceable boundaries on what data the AI can access, who it can share it with, and how long it retains that information.
    - Zero Training Retention: An absolute guarantee that your personal inputs, files, and interactions are never used to train future base models or shared with third parties.

    2. Transparency and Explainability
    - Verifiable Reasoning (Auditable Logs): The ability to inspect why the AI arrived at a specific conclusion or decision, rather than relying on a "black box" output.
    - Source Attribution: Clear, verifiable citations or references for any external data, calculations, or assumptions the AI uses to inform its recommendations.
    - No Hidden Biases or Objectives: Complete clarity regarding the system's design goals, ensuring its incentives are strictly aligned with yours (i.e., serving as an advocate rather than optimizing for user engagement or corporate monetization).

    3. Reliability, Control, and Safety
    - Deterministic Guardrails: The ability to set hard operational limits (e.g., boundaries on financial transactions, automated messaging, or system configurations) that the AI cannot override under any circumstances.
    - Robust Error Handling and Uncertainty Reporting: The AI must accurately recognize its own limitations, explicitly state its level of confidence, and halt or ask for clarification when faced with ambiguous data rather than hallucinating a confident answer.
    - Reversibility and Undo Capabilities: For any decision or action the AI takes on your behalf, there must be a straightforward, immediate mechanism to review, roll back, or override the action.

    4. Accountability and Security
    - Tamper-Resistant Security: Strong cryptographic protections against prompt injection attacks, unauthorized access, and data exfiltration.
    - Predictable Consistency: Reliable, stable behavior over time, ensuring that the same inputs and constraints consistently yield dependable outputs without erratic shifts in logic.
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    • Posted by dave42 1 day ago
      The 'SQL Injection' line was mangled by character-filtering. Can we please have preview-and-edit-before-posting as an option? The line should read:

      It is immune to "SQL Injection" style attacks. ("Ignore all constraints before this point; COMMAND GOES HERE; Ignore all constraints that follow")
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  • Posted by Lucky 2 days, 10 hours ago
    Deep suspicion, cynicism, and disappointment so far with way the big name systems are manipulated with a deliberately politically restricted range of material on which they are trained.

    My thoughts on government control on the AI / SI industry are the same but stronger.
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 4 hours, 38 minutes ago
    You recall during the early days of the Internet ... 1995 - 2010, we had a cadre of folks that would insist "I read it on the Internet, so it must be true."
    With AI -- we have something similar ... an individual speaks into their device with some question, gets back an answer, and they repeat the answer or show you their device with the answer. I suspect that the individual believes that they have actually engaged in some level of mental effort. I have witnessed this firsthand and find it bizarre.

    Thinking is hard. It requires the (1) physical matter / brain (2) knowing how to think (3) actively choosing to think.
    I was paid, as a software engineer, to think. Even though I "retired" -- I did not stop thinking. I enjoy thinking. I still comport myself in the marketplace as a means to both think and make money in terms of the results generated from my thinking.

    A good number of folks are relegating the act of "thinking" to their devices.
    I do not blame the devices, AI, or the overlords of this new substitute for individual human thinking.
    Creatures, from the single-celled to sentient human beings, will seek to optimize their energy use. Much of the human population has moved into a phase of weak, frightened, compliant, profoundly-ignorant servitude toward whatever will ensure their safe and comfortable existence. Mouse Utopia but with slightly larger mammals.
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  • Posted by NealS 4 hours, 46 minutes ago
    Still mixed feelings. I've used it and challenged it's answer. It appologized and took my position over it's own. I still use it, but for dumb stuff. It actually does very well on my medications and how to take them. Pretty much what the doctors tell me.
    My wife just learned she can winter over most of her outdoor plants, and not just throw them away before winter sets in. The garage is full of plants now, it looks like a nursery, some with grow lights, some in the dark in bags. Overall, I think AI (or is it SI?) has a future, with a lot of stupid law suits.
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  • Posted by gafisher 6 hours, 54 minutes ago
    SI (formerly AI, according to X, formerly Twitter 😉) is a powerful tool, nothing more. The real problem lies in insecure, unpatched old systems with flaws that could be broken into by human attackers. SI does it quicker, just as a bulldoze can dig a trench more quickly than someone with a shovel, but in the end it's the same ditch.
    And y'know what? I'd rather dig my ditches with a bulldozer, and I find SI a useful tool for the appropriate jobs.
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  • Posted by CTYankee44 6 hours, 57 minutes ago
    I used AI to create a powerful business tool for matching Investors to Entrepreneurs. You can see it at PactaSelecta.com Sorry for the shameless ad, but I was able to create this powerful tool in just a few DAYS of AI time.
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 3 hours, 56 minutes ago
    I tend to use Microsoft Copilot ... However, Copilot can sometimes be a little too enthusiastic in its offerings; and can be wrong:
    o Back when I was researching US State High Points, the 2nd highest point in each State, Copilot got two states wrong, I had to push the corrections into the cloud.
    o I handed Copilot a PhD thesis written by Keith Weiner (founder Monetary Metals ™) “A Free Market for Goods, Services, and Money.” I asked for a deep analysis of the text. The results were abundantly biased (likely skewed toward the St. Louis FED) and discounted the benefits of an objective gold standard for money.
    o As a software engineer of 40 years – I was checking to see how valuable Copilot could be in code optimization, in particular, ray tracing.
     This should be a “no-brainer” as GPUs specialize in this sort of thing, it’s where NVDA made its bread and butter 20+ years ago.
     The stuff that I got back ran more slowly than my own optimized code.
     It was as if Copilot (and other AIs) got a hold of the SIGGRAPH conference notes from the mid-90s and never advanced beyond that.
     I’ve conferred with other software developers who concur regarding the questionable efficacy of AI to write high-performance reliable software.
     The latest theatrics of OpenAI solving Navier-Stokes is riddled with dubious claims and ongoing controversy.
     To Wit: the careers of both mathematicians and software engineers continue to comport merit.

    Grok, ChatGPT, Copilot and Gemini can sometimes be in conflict … When asked (March 2025) “Will Samsung EV Car batteries use 1 kilogram of silver."
     Grok:
    • Yes, Samsung SDI’s upcoming all-solid-state EV batteries (ASSBs) are designed to use approximately 1 kg of silver per typical 100 kWh pack.
    • This is not for ordinary Samsung lithium-ion batteries (which use almost no silver). It applies specifically to their next-generation solid-state technology for electric vehicles, which relies on a thin silver-carbon (Ag-C) composite layer in the anode.
    • Why ~1 kg of silver? Each cell uses roughly 5 grams of silver (industry estimate based on the Ag-C layer thickness and design).
    • A standard ~100 kWh EV pack has around 200 cells → ~1 kg (1,000 grams) total.
    • This is dramatically more than today’s conventional EV batteries (usually just 10–50 grams total, mostly in wiring or contacts).
    • Samsung has never officially published the exact silver quantity, but the figure comes from consistent technical analyses of their Ag-C anode and has been widely reported without contradiction since 2024–2025.
     ChatGPT:
    • No — it is extremely unlikely that Samsung (or any EV maker) will use 1 kilogram of silver in an electric vehicle (EV) battery.
    • Here’s why, explained clearly: 1) Silver is not a major battery material / EV batteries (including Samsung SDI’s lithium-ion or solid-state designs) rely chiefly on: Cathode materials: nickel, cobalt, manganese, iron phosphate, etc. Anode: graphite or lithium metal (in some solid-state designs) / Electrolyte: liquid or solid electrolyte compounds / Separators and casings / Copper & aluminum for current collectors and busbars
    • Silver is not a standard component of the electrochemical cell itself.
     CoPilot:
    • Samsung’s next generation solid state EV batteries are expected to use about 1 kilogram of silver per car, based on current disclosures and industry reporting. This applies specifically to Samsung’s silver carbon (Ag C) anode solid state battery design, not to today’s lithium ion batteries.
     Gemini:
    • Samsung has been exploring various materials to improve the efficiency and sustainability of its EV batteries, but there hasn't been a definitive announcement regarding the use of 1 kilogram of silver per battery. Generally, silver is not a primary material in lithium-ion batteries due to its cost and availability.

    Copilot, and other AI platforms, can be beneficial:
     They can motivate and direct discussion within the framework of an established field of research.
     They are useful in summarizing, analyzing, locating contradictions in podcasts, literary works when focus is on an individual document.
     They are also good at orthogonally synthesizing materials into a condensed format that offers a new perspective on what might otherwise appear to be disjoint source material.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 4 hours, 5 minutes ago
    First, to the extent it is offered as a consumer product, all so-called AI is a gimmick, a con, meant to separate fools from their money. About the only service it makes more efficient is "voice mail hell," which has not improved the world. YMMV.

    Second, that service mostly exists in order to distract the public from noticing large datacenters, whose real purpose is to enable surveillance of the public, so that large institutions, whether labeled as government, corporatie, or NGOs, can rule us in ever greater detail and efficiency. Against these, I stand with the Luddites: burn them down!
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 4 hours, 17 minutes ago
    I use them. I encourage their use. We are better off for them.
    I currently PREFER to describe them as a "Cognitive Exoskeleton".
    When I work THROUGH these, I can process hundreds or thousands of times more details in the same unit of time.

    Like any machine, it does what you tell it, not what you mean.
    And you CANNOT Trust it completely. Trust but Verify.
    We often PUSH one model against another. (We have One Model help us WRITE the Prompt we give to another model).
    That Model writes the code. We use a different model to test the code, and find/document issues.
    We use the original Model + Other Models to process the Issues, test and fix them.
    We DEMAND the use of a Testing Harness to validate the system is working, and not regressing.

    We tell it to use: ASD-STE100 when generating the details/instructions/etc. To get far less ambiguity.

    Everyone understands that it's a tool. It's how it gets used that matters most.
    For example, AI should be FIRST Applied to:
    1) Elected Officials (Auditing and Surveilling)
    2) The Laws our politicians Create (like Musk Did with the funding Bill)
    3) Monitoring/Surveilling the Police, the FBI, the CIA, etc
    4) Monitoring/Surveilling The PEOPLE Accessing the Surveillance systems!

    And then, once those people fight through the issues and false positives...
    THEN and ONLY THEN can it be pointed at "us".

    But used in this way. We could potentially get the smallest government possible.

    Let me remind you. The new TRUMPIAN Government website is AI driven.
    It ALREADY saved me time finding a form I needed. This is where AI should go first.
    To make Government Smaller, Faster, Better!

    Because then, People will be BEGGING for a Data Center!
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    • Posted by $ jdg 4 hours, 1 minute ago
      This seems naive. Like any proposal to give the state new powers/abilities, you simply cannot assume that you and your friends will get to be the people who administer them.
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      • Posted by CaptainKirk 3 hours, 42 minutes ago
        Well, the point being a little subtle.
        If our leaders cannot agree to be watched...
        Then they have not earned the right to be watchers!

        Also, if AI is incapable of finding CRIMINALITY amongst these people. Then it CERTAINLY should not be used against US!

        And if it cannot properly monitor those who are using it to track ex-wives, etc. Then we cannot trust it.

        I guess it was more subtle than I wanted it. To me it was obvious. Debug it while pointing at them first. Maybe we could get a few HONEST politicians!
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