Navy's Green Laundry Initiative Weakened A $15 Billion Carrier - The "Green"er Laundry Caused the Fire on the USS Ford

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Yet another (left biased and likely corrupt) irrational decision made by left-leaning government employees.
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"The $15 billion USS Ford was forced to cut short its deployment due to a 30-hour laundry fire that did millions of dollars in damage. And it has been revealed that even while it remained on station in the Gulf, Ford could not generate combat sorties for two days due to the raging 30-hour laundry fire that drove some 600 sailors out of their sleeping quarters. Thirty hours to get a laundry fire under control raises a couple of questions. Why would a laundry catch on fire, and why did it take the firefighters and damage-control personnel of the USS Ford so long to put out the laundry fire? Sadly, the answers can be found in some wrongheaded decisions the Navy made in its effort to be viewed as being “green.”

Design for the Ford-class carrier began in March 1996, and finally, more than $15 billion later, the USS Ford was fully certified for combat in April 2023. Due to a misguided green initiative, instead of installing inherently super energy-efficient steam-based laundries, the Ford-class carriers have standardized on more expensive, more complex, inherently fire-prone, ozone-based systems."
SOURCE URL: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/navys-green-laundry-initiative-weakened-15-billion-carrier


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  • Posted by CTYankee44 6 hours, 47 minutes ago
    "If it moves, salute it. If it don't move paint it."

    That old bromide is part of Navy culture. One would think that every sailor knows the inherent danger of spontaneous combustion caused by drying paint and piles of fabrics.

    The absolute absurdity of infusing garments & fabrics with Ozone should be a court martial offense, and the imbecile that approved it should be charges with willful destruction of Navy property as well as interfering with ship movement.

    Basically, anything and everything until some Green idiot gets the death penalty. How else are they going to learn the lesson and not attempt something that stupid ever again!
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 6 hours, 44 minutes ago
    I don't know about this.

    The fire could certainly have been managed better, but this implied that Ozone laundry eliminates/significantly reduces water usage, and it does not.

    This may be a "green thing". However, I would NOT want steam from the engine room going to the laundry at all. This water is chemically controlled for corrosion et al, not just water, and has no business being cross connected to a stupid use like laundry. In a submarine, such piping would have to go through both reactor compartment bullheads. Those penetrations would cost more than the whole stupid laundry.

    Maybe the ozone thing sucks and is wasteful, but this article does not defend it well. Fundamentally the ozone eliminates soap, not water.

    Idiocy on the part of the Navy is wide and deep. If anyone cared about cost, green or warfighting, they would have deployed the hybrid electric drive system we developed and tested almost 20 years ago on DDG51. It saved ~$3M/yr fuel cost (depot not delivered), increased time on station considerable, and offered ~3MW of additional electrical power to the ship, that is needed for the AMDR and laser weapons. We had to sell it all over the navy, and because the part that buys equipment doesn't buy fuel, no one cared. So, we went to Congress and got $ to fund it. (today, we'd just do it ourselves) Then after we teamed with our competitor, pooled $, designed, built and tested it, the Navy put it out to competition, and selected a cheap commercial system. That system was too big to fit both shafts, had massive EMI issues, and when tested at sea, it failed miserably, not able to control in any sea state, just tripping offline over and over. Seven (7) were built, and they sit in the Philadelphia shipyard gathering dust. Our system was ~$10M/ship, saved $3M/yr, paying itself off in three years, and resolved power issues. We have ours back and use it for testing various stuff. The Navy are idiots, but are completely eclipsed by the Army in utter stupidity.
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    • Posted by 5 hours, 47 minutes ago
      👍 "The Navy are idiots, but are completely eclipsed by the Army in utter stupidity."
      As long as they aren't audited, punished, and corrected for stupidity/corruption the situation will only continue and get worse.
      Government has never been competitive in anything except, perhaps, when competing against other incompetent governments.
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      • Posted by $ Thoritsu 5 hours, 33 minutes ago
        I have to tell you, being close to the Navy, the changes coming from the administration are gothic, and just awesome! The next step we hear is taking the NAVSEA workforce from 10,000 to 1,000! FANTASTIC! They have totally changed the decision ownership to the people responsible to get things done. NAVSEA 05 (Technical "no"-sayers) are being spread to the wind,. Absolutely fantastic changes.
        The system will be turn back into a mess again. It always does, but not right away.

        Great changes.
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        • Posted by JakeOrilley 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
          Good to know, and glad to hear!
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          • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 hours, 8 minutes ago
            Look up Jason Potter, ASN/RDA now. I knew him previously as a Congressional staffer. He is a GREAT guy, trying to do the right thing, drive efficiency and expediency. No arrogance, soft spoken, Totally unusual for a political role like this.

            https://www.secnav.navy.mil/rda/Docum...
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            • Posted by JakeOrilley 2 hours, 25 minutes ago
              Thanks for the link - looks to be an impressive individual. Know someone in the AF and they say the change between admin's is VERY stark. They would not have been able to do what has been done in the Mideast without the change. And the force shaping that is going on - he said they are going to lose some good desk people due to the reinforcing of physical requirements but all in all it is a very good thing.
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    • Posted by 73SHARK 5 hours, 48 minutes ago
      It's been my experience that decisions like this that are made in the military can be traced back to politics. A recent example would be when they picked the F-22 instead of the F-23 during the runoff was that even though the F-23 was the better plane, the F-22 was picked because of having more political support for the manufacturer.
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      • Posted by $ Thoritsu 5 hours, 29 minutes ago
        That definitely happens. It is why we use a crappy 57mm POS pop gun, while every other Navy uses the 76mm. BAE politics. Ridiculous. We offered the 76 for the same price and it fit in the same space. It has a guided munition that has a 26 mile range. Politics.
        The HED decision was a douche 2-star trying to make a point. He did, and cost the navy $100M's and capability. His douche name is VADM (later) McCoy. He is an arrogant puke, and should have his retirement forfeit.
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