Elon Pivots To The Moon

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"A city on the Moon will cost somewhere between $100B and $500B, require thousands of Starship flights, and demand a decade of nonstop construction in a place where the temperature swings 400°C between day and night, the dust cuts through metal seals like sandpaper, and a single cracked habitat window means everyone inside is dead in about 90 seconds.

Musk just announced SpaceX is doing it anyway. Here’s the actual engineering path.

You build at the south pole. Specifically the rims and floors of craters like Shackleton and Cabeus, where temperatures in permanent shadow drop below -230°C. NASA estimates 600 million metric tons of water ice are buried in these craters under about 40 cm of dry regolith. That water becomes your oxygen supply, your drinking water, your radiation shielding, and 78% of your rocket propellant by mass. The crater rims get near-continuous sunlight for solar power. You build where the resources are."
SOURCE URL: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2026-02-09/elon-pivots-moon


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  • Posted by mccannon01 1 day, 1 hour ago
    Very interesting. I didn't realize lunar dust was so abrasive and sharp and presents a real challenge. It makes sense since there is no wind or water erosion to smooth edges of broken up material. No atmosphere, however, will allow it to settle quickly if disturbed rather than blow around like here on earth. Wipe your feet carefully when you enter a habitat.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 19 hours, 2 minutes ago
    The moon and Mars for that matter, along with all the other planets will be devastatingly affected by the solar micro nova. Don't know if the moon or mars has a meaningful magnetic field, maybe one can be created but the Blast and impactors from the event will be a killer.
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    • Posted by fairbro 4 hours, 24 minutes ago
      Micronovae occur only on white dwarf stars—the dense, "dead" cores of stars that have already run out of fuel. Our Sun is currently a "main sequence" star and won't become a white dwarf for another 5 billion years.
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    • Posted by 6 hours, 46 minutes ago
      At least Mars has an extra 50 million miles to dissipate the effect of the blast,
      cheap real estate, no taxes, and no governmental interference to speak of.
      Could be that the blast is 100+ years away and underground Mars settlement
      might be realized in time.
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      • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 5 hours, 58 minutes ago
        Everything now indicates a 20y timeline unless by some miracle, the poles stop moving. I'm sure if the majority of mankind understood, the would appreciate that if it happened.

        Know some talented actuaries and have tried to determine a +/- years into the galactic current sheet from one trip around the galaxy to another but can't seem to get a consistent set of data points.
        My premise is that there might be variability in how and when our solar system encounters the waves of the current sheet. I would not expect each time around producing the same exact encounter..
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        • Posted by 5 hours, 9 minutes ago
          A 1% variance is 120 years on the scale of 12,000 years.
          Current "science" has proven to be much less accurate than that (albeit often there is a hidden agenda.;^)
          They are just making a guess based on data that has not been proven. There is no data on how the poles
          moved in the past. So they could slow down, reverse direction, or speed up. There is no data to make an
          accurate prediction on that as far as I have seen.
          They are just making a guess based on the best "available" data and that data is unproven.
          There are too many assumptions based on unproven data, imo.
          That said, imo, the only hope for human civilization is if their guesses are off by at least 100-200 years and
          that technology advances make it possible to make better prediction and to protect the earth if needed.
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  • Posted by 3 hours, 25 minutes ago
    "a single cracked habitat window means everyone inside is dead in about 90 seconds."
    QED: No windows. Lots of sealed pressure-proofed compartments below ground level.
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  • Posted by Lucky 7 hours, 41 minutes ago
    I do not see this as value for money.

    But, sure beats decarbonization at a higher cost which has achieved de-industrialization - except for the US with Trump!
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    • Posted by 6 hours, 56 minutes ago
      ... (and China the coal import kings.)

      Q: What do you do when you have $100 billion to invest and every earthside government wants to steal from you?
      A: Use your assets (and the assets the government stole from others) and go to a locale that has less government intervention for a while.
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