It was a left wing indoctrination scam right from the beginning. Oh my! No cafeteria in DC with the sushi chef! Big bird may have to get off the dole and get a real job! Boo-hoo-hoo! Now the local propaganda outlets are going to have to survive on their own. They will be competing with the Main Stream Marxist Media for survival.
We were talking about the CPB and suddenly all sorts of bullship pops up. Can anyone stick to one subject? This is the problem with all social media debates - Endless distractions and losing focus.
Public broadcasting , like propaganda is not about the public or its benefit,. It is about the political rulers and their bread and circuses pacification. My cousin's husband wrote songs for the CPB - Sesame Street and Barney. Did he reap any royalties or benefit for the songs they played every day for decades? Nothing, except his name on the credits and no further employment. Where did the money go? Miss Piggie?
Too bad your cousin's husband didn't know Marxists make greedy coporatists look like amateurs when it comes to legalized theft. He went into a world where his labors coming from his talent don't belong to him because it belongs to "the people".
Yeah, it is nice to stick to the subject, but I look at these Gulch threads like conversations in my parlor where sidetracking is just part of the family dialog.
Oh, goodness gracious! We can't be indoctrinated anymore? The horror! Oh. the horror! What can all the poor sheeple do? Hey, but don't worry. Baa-baa still got its heehaws. The Jackass Party still choo-choos along, Hopefully to its own train wreck and not ours.
About 50 years after the treasonous structure should have been ended. It has been obvious (to anyone with at least half a brain) since the 1970's that the CPB was a front for communist propaganda. Funding it was effectively suicide for individual liberty. Thank you to the current administration. Now how about cutting the military budget by $500 billion a year? Building big naval ships is a YUGE waste of money by the current administration.
FFA, the big ships get into a TON of details that everyone overlooks. Our Navy protects the shipping lanes from Pirates. Somali and otherwise.
This protection has guaranteed that ships could become HUGE and COSTS go way down per unit sold. The HUGE ships must move slower, but become far more cost effective.
When that Navy goes away. Shipping will have to start utilizing ships that move FASTER to be a target for a smaller amount of time. Those ships will have to charge more to protect themselves. All Prices go up. Availability of things drops.
It is a FAR more nuanced situation than you are giving it. Also, we've all but lost the ability to make these ships. We get to re-engineer the process, and the educations required as we become more self-sufficient. Welding jobs pay well, and there are a TON of welding jobs on ships. Yes machine welding will do a lot, AND SHOULD. But there are some places that only a guy might fit.
The world is NOT a safe place. Most countries are a LOT LIKE Democrat Cities. They talk nice, but will kill you without a second thought.
The solution. Reduce our sphere of influence (Monroe), Build Better tools for the future (being done now). And acquire Greenland already (Preferably with a check).
But I like building some of the new ships because the world has changed, but we will still need to be able to project force to protect what is important to us.
As stated in a reply to Thor, https://www.galtsgulchonline.com/post... I have no issue with some ships being built, but the type of ships that were effective in WW2 are sitting ducks today, and those are the ones that Trump appears to be promoting. (Trump's ego shouldn't be a deciding factor in naval construction decisions.) Dealing with piracy (which is a valid goal for naval power) does not require a CVN today. Must American taxpayers always pay for such anti-piracy efforts when the benefits are often primarily for European countries? I agree, Trump has started to move the spending on defense toward actual defense of American interests. Building an expensive navy of sitting duck naval war machines is going in the wrong direction. Increasing military spending by 50% as proposed today is utter foolishness. (Sorry this has gone off topic.;^)
We agree on 90% Except the USA consumes more than Europe. We were/are always a primary beneficiary. This is why China struggles when we stop buying as much.
But I've learned to let Trump be Trump. These are long term projects. The Carrot. And I am watching him threaten their bonuses (the stick). And that 50% "planned increase" may shrink once things change. (Whatever they promise us ALWAYS shrinks before it gets to us).
Besides the 50% increase is 1/2 due to inflation :-)
But I would not be surprised to see Trump snatch that stuff away AFTER the midterms. He cannot afford ENDLESS more attacks and still carry the house and senate.
Once he does, things will LIKELY shift back, but he needs the win to keep the wolves at bay.
I agree on the shipping consumption issue, but the location of the piracy (Houthis) currently has little affect on US goods which cross the pacific unthreatened while Europe is the destination of the shipping being threatened by Houthi pirates.
Somali pirates absolutely affect US goods, and require longer force projection. However, shutting down pirates does not require BBG-47. That is for China.
Per congressional reports 95% of traffic through the Red Sea is Asia to Europe, not to the US. Per industry statistics about 10% of shipments to the US went through the Red Sea and therefore affected. As I stated above, Europe is the primary beneficiary of anti-piracy efforts there and US taxpayers bear the costs. BBG47 is an overpriced sitting duck target. Perhaps Trump can put his golden name on some attack subs or cyber systems instead.
No, I saw it, but I'd like to understand the details to be convinced that its economic. I haven't found details online. If you can point me to some links, I'd appreciate it. (I see the BBG47 as an example of Star Wars' death star.)
Well you can certainly cancel the Army. It has no role in foreseeable warfare.
We disagree about Navy ships. Although you can clearly make them cheaper... a LOT cheaper. The path to that is to get NAVSEA OUT of ship design and specification. They are incompetent. Just the welding requirements are ridiculous. They require RT films for certification. Digital (you know, like at your dentist) is not allowed. Tell private industry what you want it to do, and let them design and build ships.
Note, I did limit my restriction to big ships. They are sitting duck targets for modern technology. I think Trump is under pressure (by the folks who killed JFK, shot Reagan, and shot at Trump) to keep spending on military. Ship building is also a way to give union members jobs, a political and personal survival choice. Unfortunately, it's a case of fighting a war from the previous century, ignoring the fact that they've been losing such since 1945 any time the opposition has any capability to resist past a week.
Certainly you could have superior knowledge. ;^) Is the 'protection' cost and the construction costs of such ships the most economic use of scarce resources? Can the so-called projection of power that those ships arguably provide be done using more economic advanced technology?
Well, what you need is radar and missile coverage. How do you get enough radar there, and float enough missiles. A big ship is cheaper per missile than a small ship. Then there is the issue of protecting the big ship. This is possible, but they need a paradigm shift for the lasers they have. They have 300kW lasers (going to 500kW). They need ~2MW. This is a physics problem. However, we can point 10x 300kW lasers on the same target without issue. This is not a problem, and with such a system, we can defeat hypersonics and drone swarms.
The last issue is cost vs size. If you look at shipbuilding costs, the cost of a surface ship is proportional to the tonnage, with high-correlation. That is why old-timers in government don't believe anything about lower cost shipbuilding. However, the cost of a cruise ship or other navy's ships do NOT follow this same trend. We need to get the RIDICULOUS NAVSEA organization and SUPSHIPS organizations the phuck out of the way. They are worse than dinosaurs.
For example, the Navy has it's own welding requirements and certification. If you want to make equipment for the Navy you MUST weld and braze to these requirements. Every welder and weld type has a separate certification. This means that the 1,000's of American Welding Society (AWS) fully-certified companies can NOT supply for any equipment going to the Navy. Who do you think knows more about welding, the thousands of people in AWS, who like IEEE or ASME study and improve welding year over year OR the 40 people in the NAVSEA welding code in 05? My brother eliminated NASA welding requirements and switched to AWS 14000 (flight safety) requirements. You can add an inspection on the weld, but not a unique weld requirement. This increased NASA's supply base over 10x! Just one stupid thing, but a perfect example of why we can lower the cost of our ships. It is NOT greedy shipbuilders, it is incompetent Navy specifiers and requirements.
If the prior Philly Shipyard, now acquired by Hanwah (Korean conglomerate and shipbuilder), gets engaged and we get NAVSEA out of the way, you will see some real affordability transitioning.
And they are still at it, but since I am not paying for it I don't care. This is one of the best things that has been done since Trump took office, and it's not just a matter of revenge. It's a matter of the idea that there's NO reason for us to pay for news reporting as a matter of routine - or at all. EVER.
Public broadcasting , like propaganda is not about the public or its benefit,. It is about the political rulers and their bread and circuses pacification. My cousin's husband wrote songs for the CPB - Sesame Street and Barney. Did he reap any royalties or benefit for the songs they played every day for decades? Nothing, except his name on the credits and no further employment. Where did the money go? Miss Piggie?
Yeah, it is nice to stick to the subject, but I look at these Gulch threads like conversations in my parlor where sidetracking is just part of the family dialog.
We can't be indoctrinated anymore?
The horror! Oh. the horror!
What can all the poor sheeple do?
Hey, but don't worry. Baa-baa still got its heehaws.
The Jackass Party still choo-choos along,
Hopefully to its own train wreck and not ours.
It has been obvious (to anyone with at least half a brain) since the 1970's
that the CPB was a front for communist propaganda.
Funding it was effectively suicide for individual liberty.
Thank you to the current administration.
Now how about cutting the military budget by $500 billion a year?
Building big naval ships is a YUGE waste of money by the current
administration.
Our Navy protects the shipping lanes from Pirates.
Somali and otherwise.
This protection has guaranteed that ships could become HUGE and COSTS go way down per unit sold. The HUGE ships must move slower, but become far more cost effective.
When that Navy goes away. Shipping will have to start utilizing ships that move FASTER to be a target for a smaller amount of time. Those ships will have to charge more to protect themselves. All Prices go up. Availability of things drops.
It is a FAR more nuanced situation than you are giving it. Also, we've all but lost the ability to make these ships. We get to re-engineer the process, and the educations required as we become more self-sufficient. Welding jobs pay well, and there are a TON of welding jobs on ships. Yes machine welding will do a lot, AND SHOULD. But there are some places that only a guy might fit.
The world is NOT a safe place. Most countries are a LOT LIKE Democrat Cities. They talk nice, but will kill you without a second thought.
The solution. Reduce our sphere of influence (Monroe), Build Better tools for the future (being done now). And acquire Greenland already (Preferably with a check).
But I like building some of the new ships because the world has changed, but we will still need to be able to project force to protect what is important to us.
I have no issue with some ships being built, but the type of ships that were effective in WW2
are sitting ducks today, and those are the ones that Trump appears to be promoting.
(Trump's ego shouldn't be a deciding factor in naval construction decisions.)
Dealing with piracy (which is a valid goal for naval power) does not require a CVN today.
Must American taxpayers always pay for such anti-piracy efforts when the benefits are often
primarily for European countries?
I agree, Trump has started to move the spending on defense toward actual defense of
American interests. Building an expensive navy of sitting duck naval war machines is
going in the wrong direction.
Increasing military spending by 50% as proposed today is utter foolishness.
(Sorry this has gone off topic.;^)
Except the USA consumes more than Europe.
We were/are always a primary beneficiary.
This is why China struggles when we stop buying as much.
But I've learned to let Trump be Trump. These are long term projects.
The Carrot. And I am watching him threaten their bonuses (the stick).
And that 50% "planned increase" may shrink once things change.
(Whatever they promise us ALWAYS shrinks before it gets to us).
Besides the 50% increase is 1/2 due to inflation :-)
But I would not be surprised to see Trump snatch that stuff away AFTER the midterms.
He cannot afford ENDLESS more attacks and still carry the house and senate.
Once he does, things will LIKELY shift back, but he needs the win to keep the wolves at bay.
has little affect on US goods which cross the pacific unthreatened while Europe is the
destination of the shipping being threatened by Houthi pirates.
Per industry statistics about 10% of shipments to the US went through the Red Sea and therefore affected.
As I stated above, Europe is the primary beneficiary of anti-piracy efforts there and US taxpayers bear the costs.
BBG47 is an overpriced sitting duck target. Perhaps Trump can put his golden name on some attack subs or
cyber systems instead.
I haven't found details online. If you can point me to some links, I'd appreciate it.
(I see the BBG47 as an example of Star Wars' death star.)
Here is the sophomoric government site:
https://www.goldenfleet.navy.mil/
We disagree about Navy ships. Although you can clearly make them cheaper... a LOT cheaper. The path to that is to get NAVSEA OUT of ship design and specification. They are incompetent. Just the welding requirements are ridiculous. They require RT films for certification. Digital (you know, like at your dentist) is not allowed. Tell private industry what you want it to do, and let them design and build ships.
They are sitting duck targets for modern technology.
I think Trump is under pressure (by the folks who killed JFK, shot Reagan,
and shot at Trump) to keep spending on military. Ship building is also
a way to give union members jobs, a political and personal survival choice.
Unfortunately, it's a case of fighting a war from the previous century,
ignoring the fact that they've been losing such since 1945 any time the
opposition has any capability to resist past a week.
We already have this problem, regardless of building BBG-47
Is the 'protection' cost and the construction costs of such ships the most economic use of scarce resources? Can the so-called projection of power that those ships arguably provide be done using more economic advanced technology?
Then there is the issue of protecting the big ship. This is possible, but they need a paradigm shift for the lasers they have. They have 300kW lasers (going to 500kW). They need ~2MW. This is a physics problem. However, we can point 10x 300kW lasers on the same target without issue. This is not a problem, and with such a system, we can defeat hypersonics and drone swarms.
The last issue is cost vs size. If you look at shipbuilding costs, the cost of a surface ship is proportional to the tonnage, with high-correlation. That is why old-timers in government don't believe anything about lower cost shipbuilding. However, the cost of a cruise ship or other navy's ships do NOT follow this same trend. We need to get the RIDICULOUS NAVSEA organization and SUPSHIPS organizations the phuck out of the way. They are worse than dinosaurs.
For example, the Navy has it's own welding requirements and certification. If you want to make equipment for the Navy you MUST weld and braze to these requirements. Every welder and weld type has a separate certification. This means that the 1,000's of American Welding Society (AWS) fully-certified companies can NOT supply for any equipment going to the Navy. Who do you think knows more about welding, the thousands of people in AWS, who like IEEE or ASME study and improve welding year over year OR the 40 people in the NAVSEA welding code in 05? My brother eliminated NASA welding requirements and switched to AWS 14000 (flight safety) requirements. You can add an inspection on the weld, but not a unique weld requirement. This increased NASA's supply base over 10x! Just one stupid thing, but a perfect example of why we can lower the cost of our ships. It is NOT greedy shipbuilders, it is incompetent Navy specifiers and requirements.
If the prior Philly Shipyard, now acquired by Hanwah (Korean conglomerate and shipbuilder), gets engaged and we get NAVSEA out of the way, you will see some real affordability transitioning.
And they are still at it, but since I am not paying for it I don't care. This is one of the best things that has been done since Trump took office, and it's not just a matter of revenge. It's a matter of the idea that there's NO reason for us to pay for news reporting as a matter of routine - or at all. EVER.