Are the ‘Liberals’ of Today Really Liberals?

Posted by freedomforall 3 days, 8 hours ago to Philosophy
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"Until recently, I had not come across anyone questioning the meaning of ‘liberal,’ until I listened to Russian philosopher Aleksandr Dugin’s interview with Alex Jones, where the Russian reminds us that ‘We are dealing with a new kind of totalitarianism – A liberal totalitarianism!’ It sounds like an oxymoron, doesn’t it, especially in light of the initial elaboration on the meaning of ‘liberal,’ above? At the same time, it displays the complexity of the term insofar as the events alluded to above have shown in no uncertain terms that those who still – incongruously – claim the epithet ‘liberal’ for themselves today, have increasingly shown, through their words and deeds, that they are, in fact, totalitarian neo-fascists. Can they be both? "
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Regular posters here in the Gulch have understood this for years if not decades.
Neither political party protects individual liberty as a so-called 'liberal' should.
SOURCE URL: https://brownstone.org/articles/are-the-liberals-of-today-really-liberals/


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  • Posted by mccannon01 2 days, 9 hours ago
    From the article: "Do these concepts bequeathed to us by Orwell in 1984 – ‘thoughtcrime,’ ‘doublethink,’ ‘Oldspeak,’ and ‘Newspeak’ – not seem oddly familiar?" Yes, they sure do. Over the past few years I've avoided using the term "liberal" when lefty or commie is more accurate.
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 4 hours, 15 minutes ago
      IMO, a so-called "lib" these days is not free at all.
      To be an enslaved conformist would be much more like it.
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      • Posted by mccannon01 2 hours, 46 minutes ago
        Indeed. The best analogy I can think of was nailed by Jesus Christ 2000 years ago when he referred to the Scribes and Pharisees as whitewashed graves. All shiny and pretty on the outside, but dead on the inside. You don't even have to be religious to see that is contemporary American usage of the word liberal in place of whitewash in reference to lefties and Marxists. Newspeak in high gear. Oh my, I hope I haven't committed a thought crime here! LOL!
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  • Posted by rhfinle 6 hours, 14 minutes ago
    This issue was considered, long ago.
    Ayn Rand was trying to describe people who think in a (by the old definition) liberal manner, while distancing themselves from he anti-Conservative control freaks that had already come into power 80 years ago. Her buddy Rose Wilder Lane (Laura Ingalls Wilder's daughter, in real life!) coined the word "Libertarian" to denote the difference.
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  • Posted by NealS 4 hours, 36 minutes ago
    In reality, I've found that most of the liberals (leftists) I know are really conservatives, seems like they just won't admit it.. They deep down beleive in most of the same things conservatives beleive in, but they are just too (something) to be able to express or admit it. They want everyone to "just get along", but yet just won't even listen to reason.
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