Going Galt, my watered down version - post 5
Posted by DennisJeeves 1 week, 1 day ago to Going Galt
Heads up: I have repeated this post in the past. Email me directly if you expect a sure to any comments that you may have. Sometimes I think the site notification don't work very well. So here I go:
Most people when they talk about 'Going Galt' are generally talking about living in some secluded place on their own (except perhaps with immediate family members). They also often want to stop dealing with the mainstream entirely. This in my opinion is not always optimum, Ideally the Gulch should be able to replicate all the useful concepts that the mainstream has come up with: like a hospital, or jobs that pay well. Larger projects (whatever that might be) require more people who are philosophically aligned and intellectually wise to co-operate achieve that goal.
I'm putting crude efforts in that direction which are outlined here at https://quberoot.wordpress.com/ . If you are interested please contact me after reading what I have put in the link. One thing that I can say unflinchingly is that it will take a lot of effort in building working relationships - something which most admirers of Ayn Rand are incapable of comprehending.
Summary, if you don't want to read the all pages on the link:
1) Get together with like minded people (I have defined what like minded is in the link that I put).
2) Work on projects for mutual benefit. ( there are some ideas, which not set in stone)
3) Initial efforts will be co-operating online. It may or may/not involve physical relocation, depending on many factors.
4) A stress on people rather than projects. Without the 'right' people every project no matter how well laid out will be doomed.
5) I'm no John Galt, expect an ordinary middle class fellow, with some grand ambitions( that may never materialize). You will have to pull your own weight, you can ( and should) expect a reasonable amount of co-operation and efforts from me.
As you can see there is nothing novel about the concept (partly the theme of Galt's Gulch in Atlas Shrugged ) , but the big challenge appears that often relatively independent thinking people also come with reclusive and non-cooperative tendencies. This means that there is near complete lack of efforts in putting aside minor differences to co-operate with other like-minded people for mutual benefit. Independence of thought (which is great) tends to foster loner (which is bad) like tendencies. Email me only if you are willing to ultimately talk.
Most people when they talk about 'Going Galt' are generally talking about living in some secluded place on their own (except perhaps with immediate family members). They also often want to stop dealing with the mainstream entirely. This in my opinion is not always optimum, Ideally the Gulch should be able to replicate all the useful concepts that the mainstream has come up with: like a hospital, or jobs that pay well. Larger projects (whatever that might be) require more people who are philosophically aligned and intellectually wise to co-operate achieve that goal.
I'm putting crude efforts in that direction which are outlined here at https://quberoot.wordpress.com/ . If you are interested please contact me after reading what I have put in the link. One thing that I can say unflinchingly is that it will take a lot of effort in building working relationships - something which most admirers of Ayn Rand are incapable of comprehending.
Summary, if you don't want to read the all pages on the link:
1) Get together with like minded people (I have defined what like minded is in the link that I put).
2) Work on projects for mutual benefit. ( there are some ideas, which not set in stone)
3) Initial efforts will be co-operating online. It may or may/not involve physical relocation, depending on many factors.
4) A stress on people rather than projects. Without the 'right' people every project no matter how well laid out will be doomed.
5) I'm no John Galt, expect an ordinary middle class fellow, with some grand ambitions( that may never materialize). You will have to pull your own weight, you can ( and should) expect a reasonable amount of co-operation and efforts from me.
As you can see there is nothing novel about the concept (partly the theme of Galt's Gulch in Atlas Shrugged ) , but the big challenge appears that often relatively independent thinking people also come with reclusive and non-cooperative tendencies. This means that there is near complete lack of efforts in putting aside minor differences to co-operate with other like-minded people for mutual benefit. Independence of thought (which is great) tends to foster loner (which is bad) like tendencies. Email me only if you are willing to ultimately talk.
Objectivists are one of the groups that I target. (Libertarians, Preppers are others that I can think off). So I familiarity with AR ( and no opposition to her views) is just a starting point, but not sufficient.
>> why would you come here to elicit support in your endeavors from people you dislike and open a dialog with an insult?
Because there are always exceptions. 4 people have contacted me in the time that I have been around on this forum. ( 1.5 of them has hung on for over 2 years, the other never took off).
Of course it's personal when I am a member of the set of people you choose to stereotype in a negative way. If you've already made up your mind concerning Ayn Rand supporters, why would you come here to elicit support in your endeavors from people you dislike and open a dialog with an insult? Now I'm scratching my head.
List them and give me links.
( may be I'm observing the wrong groups including this one )
>>if I choose to not cooperate with your (or any) false premise, does that somehow make me a loner with bad tendencies?
mccannon01, why the hell do you have to take it personally? ( the stereotypes that I form of a bunch of people - are just that: a stereotype. Does not speak about individuals. Also just to reinstate what I put in my previous post: "Notice I did not say they have to co-operate with me")
How would you rephrase the last paragraph that I put, if you were to put it in your own words?
(It's simple really most Ayn Rand admirers are bad at co-operating with each other , either that or they simply don't want to co-operate. Notice I did not say they have to co-operate with me)
"Independence of thought (which is great) tends to foster loner (which is bad) like tendencies." Too many exception scenarios to accept this.