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Shrug Job

Posted by Abaco 1 week, 4 days ago to Culture
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It's highly likely I'm going to say "screw it" and drop out of engineering next year altogether. I could consult for various design firms, teaching their staff how to design stuff the right way. But, frankly, I'd charge a high fee. So...may not be viable. So, to properly shrug I'm looking at 1-working at a buddy's burger joint. Best burger joint in the region. Little place that also has a great selection of beers on tap. 2-Work with a buddy who's started a small rental management company for short-term rentals. His business is taking off and he's running some of my real estate. I'd clean places, maybe help manage the reservations and answer questions. 3-Coach high school golf. Two seasons each year. Doing the organizing. More mental coaching than swing coaching. Plenty of outdoor time. Two seasons off for reading, hiking and drinking beer.


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  • Posted by VetteGuy 1 week, 3 days ago
    Good luck on your shrugging, however you end up doing it.

    I shrugged my engineering job many years ago, (best move I ever made) consulted a few more years (on my terms) and then totally retired after that.

    Life's too short to be enslaved to a job you hate.
    VG
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    • Posted by 3 days, 2 hours ago
      What I'm finding with my engineering work is that I'm responsible but don't (again) have enough authority to affect positive change with the people I work with building the stuff. I've always been guarded about being in that kind of position...often turning down promotions into managerial roles because that's exactly what a lot of them are. You're just a monkey in a suit jumping through hoops...
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  • Posted by mccannon01 1 week, 2 days ago
    Hmmm, my first thought is to combine #1 and #3 and do a Hugh Akston where you have a nice job and can introduce young people to Atlas Shrugged and from there...
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  • Posted by $ gharkness 3 days, 4 hours ago
    Pleased to meet you, Mr. Akston!

    You're in Arizona now, if I recall correctly? We have decided that this place is not for us, and we are headed back to Texas as fast as our fat little feet will get us there....not to shrug, but just to live.
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    • Posted by 3 days, 2 hours ago
      I'm in northern Nevada, which I do really like. When I first showed up here I heard somebody describe it as "very libertarian" and it is...
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      • Posted by $ gharkness 3 days, 2 hours ago
        Ah, gotcha. Nice to see there's a libertarian area left somewhere! I'm afraid down here in Tucson it's as blue as you can get, almost. Well, not New York blue, but too blue for me.

        Funny thing is, we're moving to a blue county in Texas, which I'd rather not be....but you have to go where the job is and where the houses are. They are all "progressive" and everything. Ugh. Still I have lived there before, so I am comfortable with it.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 days, 5 hours ago
    25 years ago I got fed up with my engineering leadership role at a major shipyard, quit and started an engineering consulting practice. That worked fine. Made good money. Opportunities galore.

    I could have done that for the rest of my career. However, got an offer to do the same thing at a new, growing company, and an executive/IC position - more stable, more money.

    Now I'm thinking of doing something like that again (e.g. a startup et al). Why do burgers when you have so much to offer technically? You can make (A LOT) more, and ignore politics as a consultant.
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    • Posted by 3 days, 2 hours ago
      I appreciate this. I have been approached a couple times for forensics engineering. One forensics consultant was very up-front..."I don't take any job I don't want. I only do technical stuff. As long as I don't let the lawyers get to me I'm golden." I am a technical guy. I'm repeatedly the guy with the technical answers in every team. A lot of people, even degreed engineers, steer clear of the technical stuff. Next week, I'm teaching colleagues on how to design the most challenging parts of hospitals. Everybody is screwing them all up these days... I may just offer my engineering teaching services to engineering firms in this hemisphere. I'd really enjoy that.
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      • Posted by $ Thoritsu 2 days, 21 hours ago
        Way better than flipping burgers, and you might even teach someone about individual responsibility along the way.

        Oh, I forgot... I used to write (and do on Quora) Freedom = Responsibility. I stand by this. You can NOT properly exercise freedom if other people are responsible (I did not say they wouldn't voluntarily). I stand by this. If you want to buy/do shit (including education, tattoos and piercings), then YOU are responsible for the outcome. You can be an adult, or you can be a child. You CAN NOT be both!!!!!! This is so simple, but the Progressive idiots want it both ways, just like my kids did when they were 9-15.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 3 days ago
    My (and only my) opinion, save the burger joint job for a teenager that needs it.

    High School Coach sounds the most "impactful" towards youth, and more outside time. Less Stress.

    The rental cleanup stuff is a no-brainer, and partially handles your own self-interest.

    Good for you. You are probably long past "having to work for food!", so do what you enjoy!
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