Your statement " The FBI's current list of terrorist organizations is dominated by Islamic groups." is incorrect. In fact, on the domestic list, the FBI does not have a single Radical Islamist group (which is ludicrous I know): http://freebeacon.com/national-security/...

The USA "Intelligence Community" information on worldwide terrorism is more accurate : http://www.dni.gov/files/documents/Intel...

Perhaps facebook isn't appropriate. But priests and rabbis did indeed speak out re pedophilia. I would like to see some similar degree of outrage from Islam. However I will say that that will be difficult with today's "lame stream" media.

The link was from two Islamic clerical sites (as requested). If you choose to not believe their interpretation,that is your privilege.

Read "Jefferson's Quaran" t truly understand the founders and your shot at the pirates etc. As an Irish Catholic, I can tell you that the discussions with Protestants has not been altogether friendly through the decades.
We can look at over 2000 years of "peaceful" Christian warring as well. (The Inquisitions come to mind.)

My point is not that there are not Islamic nuts. My point is not all Moslems are radicals just like not all Catholic are pedophiles.

No, but I don't think Priests spoke out of Facebook about pedophilia. Facebook is not an appropriate place.

The Islamic notion of God is substantially different than that of the either the Jewish notion or the Christian notion. Islam admits no such person as a Savior for the purpose of absolution of sin. Jews proclaim He has not yet come while Christians proclaim that He has come in the person of Jesus Christ. To attempt to link the three is to ignore essential doctrinal differences foundational to each sect. And that's just getting started.

The claim that "Military action in the name of Islam has not been common in the history of Islam" is simply nonsense. Mohammed himself forced the conversion of city after city in the region, and the entirety of the advance of the Islamic faith is one long story of persecution and bloodshed. The Arabs were first. Coptic Christians were slaughtered en masse. The Ottomans had their sights set on Eastern Europe until the Venitians and a few others destroyed an invading armada. Who were the original pirates of the 1800's who were raiding US shipping merchants and whose engagement led to the original Marines anthem line "to the shores of Tripoli"? That would be Islam again. The FBI's current list of terrorist organizations is dominated by Islamic groups. Then there are the recent regional conflicts created in Serbia/Bosnia, Israel, Sri Lanka, India, Africa, the Phillippines, and even Western China. Even Iran and Iraq went at it for thirty years over religious differences.

Again, are there Muslims who don't ascribe to violence? Certainly. But your arguments of the "peacefulness" of that religion are drowned out by the cries of 1600+ years of history. I will happily change my opinions - as soon as they all put down their weapons and renounce violence. I wish you success in that endeavor, but you'll pardon me for not holding my breath...

"Probably the same place on Facebook where Catholic Priests & Jewish Rabbis speak out? "
A curious comment. Are there beheading s by Catholics and Jews that I missed in the media?

Probably the same place on Facebook where Catholic Priests & Jewish Rabbis speak out?

From clerics on the Concept of Jihad and the statement it is an offensive Holy War :
"WHAT JIHAD IS NOT
Jihad is not a violent concept.

Jihad is not a declaration of war against other religions. It is worth noting that the Koran specifically refers to Jews and Christians as "people of the book" who should be protected and respected. All three faiths worship the same God. Allah is just the Arabic word for God, and is used by Christian Arabs as well as Muslims.

Military action in the name of Islam has not been common in the history of Islam. Scholars says most calls for violent jihad are not sanctioned by Islam. "

http://islamicsupremecouncil.org/underst...

http://www.quran-islam.org/articles/part...
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Thanks. Now where are the clerics?

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Quilliam/...

https://www.facebook.com/MaajidNawazFanP...

I am surprised that so many claim to be objectivist and when I peruse all of the comments here about the subject of a particular religion it is as if it had credibility. Ayn Rand was an atheist and proud of it as I have heard her state. she would not debate a moderate this or that when it came to religion. The muslims or islamists are in total the enemy of the western world and that is the long and short of it. Even if we were not from a religious perspective Judeo Christian but all atheist's they would consider us infidels because we didn't believe as they do. There is no manner of reasoning with them, such as we believe as we want and you believe as you want, it will not happen. therefore, as I see it the only way to end the warring is to win the war and that is at any method necessary. Short of that the economy of the world will be destroyed and then we will all be on the same playing field of poverty.

I don't read in Arabic. The version I was given to read was given as part of a religious discussion by a Muslim and said that although it couldn't convey the poetic aspects present in the prose, that the doctrine was accurately represented. I don't believe the nonsense that a language can't be understood if translated.

And yes, I have met many Muslims who I don't believe would go and behead people, but the problem is that they are silent. They do not speak up. Try looking for a Facebook page for non-violent Islam. How about a fatwa from Islamic clerics that jihad is not acceptable?

Want to know one of the most compelling tales I read? It is the story of a man who spent twenty years in an Iranian jail because he converted to Christianity.

I would also note that it is not the people themselves that I object to, but the ideology. You'll never get me to believe that freedom comes by the sword.

what about equal rights for women?

Yes. 1 guy and he's been ostracized by most of those in power in the muzzie community. Where are the other 2 billion and their leaders?

Many are standing up, they don't get the press coverage and are dismissed as irrelevant.

I congratulate you on being able to read Arabic to read the Koran and not a biased translation.Unfortunately I have had to read translations that I believe to be unbiased.
I probably have traveled more than you and know Islamic people from many parts of the world. The brutality and intolerance in Iran is NOT ALL of Islam, just ban example of the worst.
There is a great book called "Radical: My Journey Out of Islamist Extremism" by Maajid Nawazth it may help YOU modify your beliefs against 1.5 billion followers of Islam.

actually, even on Fox News , there were moderates speaking out against the beheadings.

"--ignore Mr. Obama" is how Warner ends his article, having cited valid Mohammad historical reasons to do so. It is kind of hard to ignore the 2013 Lie Of The Year winning Chairman Leader Of The Not So Free World. But I try.
I hate to hear him on car radio news sound bites. I will turn the radio off, count to ten and start cussing if he is still on talking--usually he's done by then. When he is on TV, I will say, "I see your lips moving!" and act the same way.
Worse, he will never be gone. Obummer plans to retire in a Washington D.C. home ,having moved his lips that it has to do with his girls' education.
Yeah. Right.
Should O = 0 have a successor who tries to overturn Obamacare, for example, just watch all of his media flunkies crowd his front door to receive his televised whines. .
I foresee myself quoting Charlie Brown: "AURGH!"

religion is not a good think for mankind. just look at what the world is like because of religion.

Watch Bill Maher's interview by Charlie Rose, the atheist hits it right on the head, in a direct, challenged debate with Rose, stating that Islam is the "Connective Tissue" of all the perversions that are occurring.

Having read the majority of the Qu'ran and talked to actual people from Iran trying to escape the brutality and intolerance that is Islam, all I can say is that you need to do your homework more.

And I would just add that if they are not willing to stand up against this "minority" who are perverting the so-called "religion of peace", they are irrelevant in the discussion. Not voting is in and of itself a vote.

"Christianity" got perverted originally when it was co-opted by Emperor Constantine and appointed as the official religion of the Empire - after a few of his own additions. Constantine himself wasn't even a Christian, but a pagan sun-worshipper.

The original Christian faithful literally got fed to the lions or executed as heretics by the Jews or - in the case of the Copts - the Muslims. Without the Apostles to maintain the dogma, it quickly fragmented. The movement to get back to the literal elements of Christ's teachings happened during the Reformation after the printing press began to openly distribute the Bible and the clergy were no longer able to reconcile their practice with Biblical teachings.

The concept of an Islamic "reformation" is interesting, but without the introduction of original material which contradicts what currently exists in the Qu'ran, I fear that such a "reformation" is only going to revert back to literalism. And there isn't anything in the Qu'ran to encourage me to believe that outcome is going to be a boon to freedom or tolerance.

I've known from the beginning that in the term"radical Islam" the word "radical" is redundant. Islam, the so-called "religion of peace" is based upon the 9th-century barbarism practiced in the name of a religious thug. He is Attila and the Witch Doctor rolled up into one. By the teachings of Mohammad, "moderate" Muslims are apostates just like any other nonbeliever if they don't practice Sharia law and engage in jihad. And the US wants to extend constitutional protections to these animals. The only destruction that these subhumans can justify is their own.

Islam has a unique element that does not exist in any other modern religion, and that is a call for theocracy. Some Muslims would argue that it isn't a demand to replace secular government, but guidance in governance of one's own life. Every religion has a problem between the literalists who infer that every line of scripture must be followed (and usually end up cherry-picking for the most inflammatory, dramatic lines), and those who regard religious texts as allegorical rather than literal. Christianity went through its theocratic, bloody stage several centuries ago, and the Reformation "civilized" the faith. Islam still awaits its Reformation.

Half hearted in denouncing sharia is giving much more credit than is do. I heard none of these scholars speaking out about last weeks beheading in Oklahoma and the islamists where at the police briefing picketing. If they aren't speaking out against sharia and the rest, they they are giving it approval.

Thanks for this post...perhaps it will encourage more to look at FACTS... Now we have converts cutting heads off people HERE in the USA...wtf is going on. Where is the outrage. Who can say their religion is above the US laws...what kind of a defense is that...get out if you don't like our laws.. I did my own research on this subject, thanks to uncommonsense and I will not be a victim and those here who use reason as their premise, should do the same.