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Steve Wynn: I'm 'more scared' about US than China

Posted by $ Your_Name_Goes_Here 9 years, 8 months ago to Government
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While I would not presume to speak for any of you, from my conversations in the Gulch I believe that many of us feel the same way.

We have a...

Department of Agriculture that does not grow anything.
Department of Commerce that does nothing but hinder commerce.
Department of Education that does not educate.
Department of Energy that produces no energy.
Department of Health and Human Services that does not heal.
Department of Homeland Security... need I say more.
Department of Housing and Urban Development that has not built a house.
Department of Justice that has become the Department of Injustice.
Department of Labor that does no labor.
Department of the Interior that tells us we cannot take photos of the lands that We The People have paid for.
Department of Veterans Affairs that has been an obstacle between our veterans and the medical care that they were promised.

How in the world did we get here? I have my opinions, but would like to hear yours.

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    Posted by DrZarkov99 9 years, 8 months ago
    While much is made of the Federalist Papers, that were an attempt to explain the thinking behind the Constitution, less focus is on that collection of opposing columns published at the time, often called the Anti-Federalist Papers. In these writings you will find warnings about the loopholes in the legal architecture of our founding document that would inevitably lead to abuse. The Anti-Federalists have been maligned as states' rights bigots, but much of what they tried to caution us about has come true, just as they predicted. They warned how sweeping generalizations such as "general welfare" opened the door to uncontrollable government expansion, just as one example.
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    • Posted by $ 9 years, 8 months ago
      If there was a flaw in the reasoning of our Founding Fathers, it was their assumption that good people would continue to seek office. As we can see over a few regimes, that has turned out to be a flawed assumption.
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      • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 8 months ago
        Benjamin Franklin pointed this out even before the signing of the Constitution. He lamented that the motive for power and personal gain from such a position would inherently draw from the least savory elements of society.
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    • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 8 months ago
      If you get the chance, read the original compilation called "The Anti-Federalist Papers" (found here: http://www.amazon.com/Anti-Federalist-Co...)

      These are actual transcripts (or partials) of the debates of the Constitutional Convention where the various merits of the New Jersey, Virginia, and other plans were debated. This is a great read if one reads to see that there are dangers inherent in every system.
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  • Posted by Herb7734 9 years, 8 months ago
    A simple way to understanding why socialism/communism don't work is to look up "Parkinson's Law" and "The Peter Principle." Without all of the profound philosophical ideas that takes philosophers and economists to write several hundred page books about, there are two immutable laws that arise whenever certain events occur. A bureaucracy tends to expand into the space available for it and persons will rise to the level of their incompetence. The first is illustrated by the examples above and the second by Mr. Obama.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 9 years, 8 months ago
    Most of the above would not exist in a government following Objectivistic political principle.

    We would have Departments of State, the Treasury, Defense and Justice. That's all.
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    • Posted by $ blarman 9 years, 8 months ago
      But we can't brainwash the populace without a Department of Education.

      We can't subsidize all those windmills without a Department of Energy.

      We can't subsidize ethanol production without a Department of Agriculture.

      We can't buy votes and redistribute wealth without a Department of Housing and Urban Development.

      We can't tell businesses how to do business without a Department of Commerce.

      We can't control all the water and land without the EPA.

      We can't bail out our union buddies and give pork projects to our Senators without the Department of Transportation.

      We can't control everyone's healthcare and scare them with disease outbreaks without the Department of Health and Human Services.

      We can't control the Western States without owning half their lands under the Department of the Interior.

      Name an opportunity for graft and corruption and just put "Department" in front. That's bureaucracy.
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  • Posted by woodlema 9 years, 8 months ago
    Department of Agriculture that does not grow anything.
    Russia had that, it is called Socialism and the small family farms outproduced the government.

    Department of Commerce that does nothing but hinder commerce.
    Russia and China have that, it is called State Run Commerce. That is communism

    Department of Education that does not educate.
    Russia, China and all dictatorships have that, and it’s called brainwashing and propaganda.

    Department of Energy that produces no energy.
    Venezuela has that and they are Socialist/Communist and their people live in complete poverty and squalor

    Department of Health and Human Services that does not heal.
    We have Obamacare that is now totally destroying the economic fabric of this country.

    Department of Homeland Security... need I say more.
    Can we say Hello Comrade?

    Department of Housing and Urban Development that has not built a house.
    We could go on and on however, everything our politicians are moving toward by compromising to the middle, which is ironic, since the left keeps dragging that proverbial “middle” further and further left is a quote from a communist.

    Three months before his visit in 1959 to the US, a man by the name of Nikita Kruschev, one of the all-time butchers of human beings in the world, made the following quote:
    "We cannot expect the American people to jump from Capitalism to Communism, but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism until they awaken one day to find they have Communism".
    A Socialist and a Communist both made a quote, and it was the same thing. So, if you have Socialism, you have Communism. Socialism is only a stepping-stone to Communism.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 9 years, 8 months ago
    I'm more afraid of a condition I like to call libtard than I am of ISIS, ISIL or whatever you want to call that pseudo-nation. Most of those crazy Muslims are over there. We have enough not as quite as mentally ill libtards to elect the socialist Liar-In-Chief twice. .
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    • Posted by RevJay4 9 years, 8 months ago
      When you combine the "mentally ill" libtards with the possibility of ISIS members crossing the porous borders of this nation, that is scary. Then there is the homegrown or radicalized muslims already here. I've learned that I need to be very aware of my surroundings wherever I go. Not fun.
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  • Posted by barwick11 9 years, 8 months ago
    If you knew what happened in China, I don't think you'd be saying this.
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    • Posted by $ 9 years, 8 months ago
      What are you referring to? I travel to China often, and I know their policies pretty well...
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      • Posted by barwick11 9 years, 8 months ago
        The fact that there is almost zero freedom of the individual there? I mean, it's *going* that way here, but at least here they don't regularly imprison people who speak out against the regime.
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        • Posted by $ 9 years, 8 months ago
          Yet... But we don't live in China, and in that context we certainly have a lot to fear from our regime.

          What part of MY post do you disagree with?
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          • Posted by barwick11 9 years, 8 months ago
            I agree with your post, but not the title. Now, here's a thought... given that we have such incompetence in our government, do you feel that if we had another 2 terms of Obama that we wouldn't be utterly crushed if China & Russia decided to press the issue and ramp up a war over 2 or 3 years, eventually turning it into full blown war after we've sold out our allies, lost key technologies, etc?
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            • Posted by $ 9 years, 8 months ago
              The title came from the article, which was a quote from Steve Wynn. In the context of our lives in the US, his comment makes sense to me. Over the years, we have evolved from the government fearing its citizens to the citizens fearing their government. That's broken and must be reversed.

              And yes, we do NOT have the wherewithal in this administration to actually deploy our troops into full-scale combat, should that be needed God forbid. We have effectively taken our Queen off the chessboard so to speak. That is not a capability comment, but a "will to win" comment.
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