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Idiocracy is here

Posted by jack1776 2 weeks, 3 days ago to News
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Me and a co-worker was just speaking about this yesterday, he sent me this link.
SOURCE URL: https://thevoicesf.org/grading-for-equity-coming-to-san-francisco-high-schools-this-fall/

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  • Posted by Eyecu2 2 weeks, 2 days ago
    This is already here in Texas. I teach high school math, though teacher is more a title and far less a description of what I do. I am not allowed to fail students. It doesn't matter if they come to class or not. Legally they cannot force me to pass a student; however, if I fail a student I will not get a contract for the next year. So I have a choice do what is right and loose my job, my source of income or rubber stamp these kids and allow life to show them as the failures that they are. I have often argued that we are not doing them any favors by just passing them along but of course the Administration only cares about their numbers which directly affects funding.
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    • Posted by $ splumb 2 weeks, 2 days ago
      It's been in place a long time, Eyecu.
      I graduated high school in Detroit in 1982, and four of my fellow graduates couldn't read a single word.
      Push 'em through, get that federal funding.
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      • Posted by Eyecu2 2 weeks, 2 days ago
        I have been in education since 2002 and this is the first school that I have worked at that refuses to allow failures. Always before they discouraged it, but here you will not get a contract if you fail a kid. So much so that the last six weeks I had 1 that missed the last 3 weeks of school yet I was forced to give her a passing grade for the six weeks which then passed her for the year.
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        • Posted by mccannon01 2 weeks, 2 days ago
          Gee, Eyecu2, look on the bright side. That girl probably FELT real good about passing. She may continue getting high on that "I got something for nothing" feeling for the rest of her life... or until the whole system providing that feel good drug collapses. Atlas Shrugged is becoming a documentary.
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          • Posted by Eyecu2 2 weeks, 2 days ago
            I will soon be rated 100% P&T through the VA and I will walk out immediately after. Once I do not need that paycheck they can burn down the world with their foolishness. I won't live to see the ruins.
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            • Posted by mccannon01 2 weeks, 2 days ago
              I see your point in "I won't live to see the ruins". At my age I can see Free America holding on until I'm gone, but then again looking at Stalin, Hitler, and Mao it may only take a single decade to smother freedom and the same can happen to what's left of Free America.
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          • Posted by Lucky 2 weeks, 2 days ago
            girl probably FELT real good about passing

            More likely, has no interest in school or education at all.
            She will have many children, all on welfare. Those children will also pass at an even lower level of attainment.
            Such a system is not sustainable, to borrow a woke word and use it correctly. The question is, How will it fail?
            Is there a non-violent possibility?
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            • Posted by mccannon01 2 weeks, 2 days ago
              One thing I noticed in Atlas Shrugged is Dagny and others could walk the streets of NYC and not get mugged or harassed on every corner during the decline. I don't think that is so during a real decline. If things don't turn around it's going to get a lot worse and the flames being fanned by the left are getting hotter.
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    • Posted by tutor-turtle 2 weeks, 2 days ago
      Then they go on the college, where it is rinse and repeat.
      When they then go onto their chosen fields, at what point do we wait only to discover they are a danger to themselves and the public?
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      • Posted by Eyecu2 2 weeks, 1 day ago
        I have repeatedly raised similar concerns and been told that it is my job to pass them and it is others responsibility to determine if they are qualified for their positions. My response to this is that it would be more beneficial to these students for me to hold the line at my level and not encourage them to waste money at college in fields that they are not suited for.
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        • Posted by tutor-turtle 2 weeks, 1 day ago
          My my was a professor at state collage until retiring, with me, 5 years ago.
          She referred to collage the Freshman as 13th graders.
          She was a tough grader and a firm taskmaster.
          She said some of the academically poorly performing students acted like she kicked their puppy when they got the grades they deserved.
          She also observed, there were more than a few students who had no business being in collage, aside from the fact their parents would continually pay the bills (dorm rooms, cars, credit cards, food...) whether they passed or failed.
          It is my opinion it was to get them out of the house long enough to move into smaller digs the children couldn't move back into.
          If they were fortunate enough to have parents with enough dough, I imagine those "students" would remain forever dependent on mom & dad, as long as they foot the bills.
          Those who sucked their parents dry, are in for a rude awakening.
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          • Posted by Eyecu2 2 weeks, 1 day ago
            I really pray that the college Freshman professors will be true hard asses and do everything in their power to wash out as many students as possible. Because at my level we are told to push them all to go to college and honestly less than 10% should even consider college. I personally tell my students that most of them shouldn't even consider college but I get in trouble regularly and have to switch high schools every few years since administration will not accept the truth that I tell the kids.
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            • Posted by tutor-turtle 2 weeks, 1 day ago
              You'll find this pretty funny.
              I met my wife in high school.
              It was a trade school.
              She took graphics arts.
              I took electronics.
              We both made careers from starting off in the trades.
              Eventually working up through the system.
              She became a Fine Arts professor.
              I became an engineer.

              What this country needs is a serious commitment to trade schools.

              It won't be long before any of this kids would be able to fix a broken light bulb.
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              • Posted by Eyecu2 2 weeks, 1 day ago
                Now there I completely support trade school for the vast majority of high school students. No matter what we will always have a need for blue collar workera.
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    • Posted by NealS 2 weeks, 2 days ago
      Have you ever invited the parents of these kids to meet with you? Some (most?) parents have go to care.
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      • Posted by Eyecu2 2 weeks, 2 days ago
        I am required to file what my school calls an Academic Referral on kids who should fail 3 weeks before the end of the six weeks. This Academic Referral must contain the missing work, their current grade, and evidence that I have made contact with the parents/ guardian. From that point on the rest of the six weeks doesn't even matter, as they are not responsible for it. Additionally if I cannot make contact with the parents/ guardian I am required to pass the students anyway. Normally the parents/ guardian of those kids will not answer the phone or any other form of communication. I made contact with 1 of the worst offenders on my list by using the emergency contact instead of the preferred contact and got in trouble for using that number. The whole thing is so ridiculous as to be unbelievable. The kids who's parents care always pull it up at the last minute if not before but those of a certain culture know the system and abuse it to the fullest. I find that this culture is mostly of the lower SES kids and it is not necessary racial but more likely in certain groups.
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        • Posted by NealS 2 weeks, 2 days ago
          Not sure if I could handle that. I'd be afraid that a few of those kids might actually make it through medical school, and I know a lot have already.
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          • Posted by Eyecu2 2 weeks, 2 days ago
            I have done the best that I can and can only pray that others down the line will do the same. But ya, I have had more than one student tell me that they are going to be engineers and that they hate math and will never need it.
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            • Posted by mccannon01 2 weeks, 2 days ago
              They want the engineer title and pay, but are clueless as to what to do to actually be an engineer. I've seen a bit of this in the corporate world. I've seen such "engineers" steal the work of techies below them and put their name on it because they can't do the work themselves. Some are hard to get rid of once discovered.
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              • Posted by Eyecu2 2 weeks, 1 day ago
                Sadly many of the ones that act this way in my classes are getting all of the math correct but what they are doing is using photomath, airdrop and various versions of AI. They are convinced that this makes them smarter than the teacher as they can have the answers before I can even finish the instruction. Of course when I refuse to allow them to have their phones and make them work alone they cry that it is unfair. These same kids cannot add or subtract without a calculator.
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              • Posted by NealS 2 weeks, 1 day ago
                Without math, and common sense training, they can alway become politicians and steal from everyone.
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                • Posted by mccannon01 2 weeks, 1 day ago
                  Oh, absolutely! Hadn't thought of that one, thanks. And then there are the constituencies that vote for the politicians that will steal on their behalf - from an old song: and the free stuff spread all around all around and the free stuff spread all around! LOL! [actually, not so funny]
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  • Posted by freedomforall 2 weeks, 3 days ago
    Yet the surveys keep saying that Mississippi's school systems are bad and CA's are good?

    I (jokingly) think that CA should be forced out of the US and a 10,000% tariff placed on all imports from CA excepting only fresh food.

    I wonder how long it would take for the tech companies to relocate to the former Confederacy?
    (Might they be stupid enough to move to MA instead?)

    ;^)
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    • Posted by $ rainman0720 2 weeks, 2 days ago
      I think there'd have to be a 30-day tariff-free grace period for people fleeing CA for political reasons, as long as their beliefs could be verified. Same for any business fleeing due to their smothering tax system. Beyond that, I love the idea. Hell, make them print their own currency and force them to negotiate currency conversion. And make them sign trade pacts for things like electricity and water.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 2 weeks, 2 days ago
    The best part is the title NAILED it.
    "Coming to ... High Schools this fall"

    But only if you realize the word FALL means COLLAPSE.

    And Coming To... Means Pushed in order to help the COMING FALL/COLLAPSE!
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  • Posted by mccannon01 2 weeks, 3 days ago
    Hmmmm, I'm wondering how the equity system will handle the differences between students that have learn to spell their name if it has multiple syllables vs single syllable names. Will students with multi-syllable names be given a pass if they misspell them since they are unfairly and inequitably challenged? Maybe spelling your own name differently each day in an equitable school system would be irrelevant.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 2 weeks, 3 days ago
    Hey, guess what? When I was in the 10th grade, by the way let me add...I was an A student all the way up. I took Algebra. It wasn't the smartest thing I ever did. I was the only female in the class. At the end of the term when we got our report cards, I looked at mine and saw an F in Algebra! Two or three days later dad said 'hey I didn't see your Algebra card in this stack of cards. I handed him the card and the roof almost left the house. It was 10 o'clock at night when daddy and the high school principal pulled my records for the year that averaged a C...the principal called my teacher and he joined them. He told the principal he graded me on my attitude. Roof of high school almost blew off. The Principal told the teacher in our school we didn't grade students on their manners, and he was welcome not to come back the next year. I make note my school district was one of the most wealthy in Texas...oil on the school property .I was offered two college scholarships and we didn't even have to take entrance exams if we had an A average like I did. We took achievement tests annually. nb
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  • Posted by jack1776 2 weeks, 3 days ago
    The timing for this is completely impeccable…

    Just opened an e-mail, below (removed identifiable info):

    Good day,

    Here in (redacted) , I have school sponsorship spots available. Your sponsorship would be seen by the parents in the student weekly progress reports.

    These are the schools and parents close to you.
    (redacted) Elementary
    1 mile away with 686 parents

    (redacted) Elementary
    1 mile away with 646 parents

    (redacted) Elementary
    1 mile away with 610 parents
    This is what a child's weekly progress report sent to parents looks like with your sponsorship advertisement.

    Sponsored By
    (redacted) Donuts
    Serving the freshest donuts since 2004!
    (redacted) | (redacted)

    Weekly Progress Report
    Current Grade Level: 6.6
    Beginning Grade Level: 6.1
    Skills Mastered: 61

    ============================================================

    If you would like to claim a spot, simply reply to this email with which schools you would like to claim. The spots will reach the parents weekly.

    Best,
    (redacted)

    The school system is selling sponsorship on report cards to raise money? Brought to you by Carl’s Jr.

    https://youtu.be/IAM1rSObk4c
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    • Posted by mccannon01 2 weeks, 1 day ago
      Ha, here's an ad for the report card from Joe's Pizza shack: No reading. No Writing. No Math required. Will train to place pepperoni and cheese. Management will take care of all technical issues such as oven temperature and cook time.
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