The Iran Trap: Everyone Wants Americans To Fight Their Wars For Them
Posted by freedomforall 1 week, 4 days ago to Politics
Excerpt:
"In my article ‘Iran vs Israel: What Happens Next Now That Shots Have Been Fired?’, published in April of 2024, I predicted:
“I have little doubt that Israel will commit to extensive aerial strikes on Iran this year or early in 2025, and we’ll see very quickly if Russian air defense technology sold to the Iranians is effective or ineffective…
The Israeli public position will be that their strikes are focused on taking down any existing Iranian nuclear labs. There is no solid evidence that Iran has made much headway in developing nukes (they might have dirty bombs), but the notion of nukes is more than enough in terms of public relations and justification for the war…”
Trump has always been the wild card, and he still is to some extent. His comments on the nuclear negotiations suggest that he is continuing to push for a peace agreement, but Israel put the kibosh on any diplomatic plan when they assassinated multiple Iranian military leaders (Mohammad Bagheri, Hossein Salami, Gholamali Rashid, Amir Ali Hajizadeh, Fereydoon Abbasi). There’s no going back after the direct targeting of so many high ranking officials, and that may have been Israel’s intention.
This is the same strategy Israel used against Lebanon in the now infamous “pager bombings”. To be sure, Israel’s ability to infiltrate enemy governments and gain strike ready knowledge on their leadership is impressive, but in some ways it’s also desperate. These are guerrilla tactics, not the tactics of a country confident in its ability to win a conventional war.
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The reality is, just like Ukraine, Israel cannot win a protracted war without aid from the US. In order for them to execute an actual ground invasion of Iran (not to mention Lebanon and a host of other regions throughout the Middle East) they will need US weapons and troops.
As I’ve mentioned over and over again, I really don’t care about either side. I don’t care about Gaza, I don’t care about Iran, I don’t care if Israel succeeds or fails. I also find Islamic fundamentalism to be authoritarian, degenerate and parasitic to the west, but if they stay in the Middle East then it’s not really my concern. I don’t care about ancient tribal vendettas.
I find people with an overt hatred of Israel politically suspicious, and I find people who worship Israel as if their government is devoid of corruption politically suspicious. I find anyone that demands I pick a side politically suspicious. I find leftist activists that hijack Muslim causes suspicious and reprehensible. I don’t care what goes on in the Middle East, and I think most conservatives agree with me.
What I do care about is America and Americans. It’s clear that Israel NEEDS the US deeply involved in any long term war with Iran, and this is where I have a problem. Everyone wants the US to fight their wars for them and the scheming is growing tiresome."
"In my article ‘Iran vs Israel: What Happens Next Now That Shots Have Been Fired?’, published in April of 2024, I predicted:
“I have little doubt that Israel will commit to extensive aerial strikes on Iran this year or early in 2025, and we’ll see very quickly if Russian air defense technology sold to the Iranians is effective or ineffective…
The Israeli public position will be that their strikes are focused on taking down any existing Iranian nuclear labs. There is no solid evidence that Iran has made much headway in developing nukes (they might have dirty bombs), but the notion of nukes is more than enough in terms of public relations and justification for the war…”
Trump has always been the wild card, and he still is to some extent. His comments on the nuclear negotiations suggest that he is continuing to push for a peace agreement, but Israel put the kibosh on any diplomatic plan when they assassinated multiple Iranian military leaders (Mohammad Bagheri, Hossein Salami, Gholamali Rashid, Amir Ali Hajizadeh, Fereydoon Abbasi). There’s no going back after the direct targeting of so many high ranking officials, and that may have been Israel’s intention.
This is the same strategy Israel used against Lebanon in the now infamous “pager bombings”. To be sure, Israel’s ability to infiltrate enemy governments and gain strike ready knowledge on their leadership is impressive, but in some ways it’s also desperate. These are guerrilla tactics, not the tactics of a country confident in its ability to win a conventional war.
...
The reality is, just like Ukraine, Israel cannot win a protracted war without aid from the US. In order for them to execute an actual ground invasion of Iran (not to mention Lebanon and a host of other regions throughout the Middle East) they will need US weapons and troops.
As I’ve mentioned over and over again, I really don’t care about either side. I don’t care about Gaza, I don’t care about Iran, I don’t care if Israel succeeds or fails. I also find Islamic fundamentalism to be authoritarian, degenerate and parasitic to the west, but if they stay in the Middle East then it’s not really my concern. I don’t care about ancient tribal vendettas.
I find people with an overt hatred of Israel politically suspicious, and I find people who worship Israel as if their government is devoid of corruption politically suspicious. I find anyone that demands I pick a side politically suspicious. I find leftist activists that hijack Muslim causes suspicious and reprehensible. I don’t care what goes on in the Middle East, and I think most conservatives agree with me.
What I do care about is America and Americans. It’s clear that Israel NEEDS the US deeply involved in any long term war with Iran, and this is where I have a problem. Everyone wants the US to fight their wars for them and the scheming is growing tiresome."
Georg Hegel “war is progress peace is stagnation”
13 blood line families mostly Prussian are behind the Deep state.
I don't recall the use of "obtuse" in the movie, but I think I have Shawshank in my DVD library and should re-watch it.
A rational person isn't bothered by what others were responsible for
doing decades, centuries, or millennia in the past.
Lately they're more obvious about our slavery (or death with COVID.)
Obtuse. Remember what happened when that word was used in Shawshank?
Send the scumbags to fight it out bare knuckles and then bury the whole lot of them.
Logically, it should be located in Poland or Germany, where the Holocaust happened. The Holocaust Museum is a glaring exception to the accepted practice of a memorial being geographically located where the commemorated event occurred.
Placing it in America , not in Europe where the Holocaust actually occurred, lays a "guilt trip" on America. It attempts to fuse Israel's history and culture to our own unique American story. It says "Why did you not rescue us from tyranny?" Even that is a misleading premise. If anyone was responsible for not getting the truth of the Holocaust out, it was the media, not our government.
Placing it in our nation's capital, and not in Philadelphia, NY or Indiana or anywhere else, in America, creates some sort of spiritual connection between "America" and the nation of Israel. But no, we are not obligated to support Israel and the
Jewish religion, just as our government is not obliged to support Catholics or Scientologists.
Imagine if we had a memorial to the disaster of Nagasaki located in DC? Or a memorial to Napoleon in Nashville? It would be oddly out of place. This is OUR country, the nations' capital marks OUR story, not another nation's history, nor a certain religion's history.
If not, then where is the Museum of the Armenian Genocide? That was over a million slaughtered by the Turks. Where are the memorials to the slain of the Ukrainian genocide of the Poles in WW2, and all the hundreds of other genocides throughout history?
Our Honor Flight seemed not about honoring OUR veterans, it seemed "diverted" - more about feeling sympathy for Jewish people (Israel).
Simplicius says ""Something is rotten in the state of HasbarAmerica." And Israel is not our 51st state. If it was our 51st state, then that puts a different perspective on things. But it is not. If we continue being led around by the nose by Haifa, we can simply change a glyph in the name of the latest forever war (IraQ -> IraN).
Whether or not anyone can agree with America's past and all the wars we fought in, we are a sovereign nation, we are not indebted or obligated to any other nation.
(Interesting side-note on visit to WW2 museum.) I looked, and there it was, sort of discreet: "Museum funded by the folks at Raytheon."
One car (mine) takes Premium, so I will run down to < 1/4. Then add 5 gallons, and go fill up with the rest premium.
Anybody who says this is Israel's war is dead wrong.
The Iranians call Israel Little Satan, and us Big Satan, and their mission in life is to destroy Little Satan first, then Big Satan.
They've been shouting it from the rooftops for decades.
Iran is directly and indirectly responsible for nearly all of the Mohammedian terrorism in the world.
This isn’t about America being the World Police, this is about saving Western civilization from Satanic barbarians.
Next day it was, "Iran will have 'em tomorrow unless we bomb them to the stone age!"
Now its, "Iran ain't got nukes no more"
if you believe what the fedgov says today.
They are a gang of lying scumbags.
D.C. NIFO
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