better a Gulcher than a moocher or looter, eh?

Posted by Coder 12 years, 6 months ago to The Gulch: Introductions
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Of course the title assumes a dichotomy that might not pertain--When I first read The Fountainhead about 30 years ago, I finally felt like someone else knew what it was like to be me (not that I was anywhere near as competent as Roark, but man, I still felt like 'that's me'. I imagine many here had the same experience.) Twenty five or so years later, when I finally read Atlas Shrugged I got a whole new epiphany (perhaps shared by others here) regarding how important it was for the country, even the world and mankind in general that something had to be done, and done soon to bring this country (I live in the US) back from the morass of collectivistic insanity that we've plunged into. Still, I'm more a Classical Liberal (i.e. Libertarian) than an Objectivist, and I am a Christian conservative (I disagree with Rand's position on abortion, for instance), but enjoy and agree with most of what I've read so far of Rand's philosophy and find nothing but intellectual honesty in the objections to Christianity and religion in general I've read posted here at The Gultch so far. I'm hoping we can agree to not despise each other on account of me not being totally assimilated into this collective [ I'm not picking a fight; I'm just curious if it will ruffle a feather]. As I hope I've already implied, I feel we've got a lot more in common than not and I'm looking forward to learning a lot here and who knows, maybe even contributing a little (eventually, I'm a slow learner on some topics). I'm NOT asking for compromise. Truth compromised with a lie is a lie, (or food mixed with poison is poison, to borrow from Rand). I'm hoping we can find that common ground without the compromise.
Personal background: I'm over 5 decades into this life, have two kids and am miraculously married to same wonderful woman for over three of those decades.
Professionally, I'm a computer systems analyst and my work for the last fifteen years has been primarily about maintaining a realtime system at a major utility. I'll answer to 'Coder' or 'Joshua' or 'Josh' or whatever else you want to call me.


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  • Posted by $ kathywiso 12 years, 6 months ago
    Welcome Coder.... I think we all felt the same way when we read AS, which I read in my teens the first time, but with an interest in learning from Ayn Rand also.. think you will enjoy it here...
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    • Posted by 12 years, 6 months ago
      Kathy,
      I'm expecting to enjoy it here. My son (still in his early 20's) is a much bigger fan of Rand even than I am. (as far as I know he's read everything she's published and much of other Objectivists) I think I'm going to try to drag him here too. Where I am reticent, he's somewhat more free to express. I think if you guys can stand me, you'll love him.
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      • Posted by $ kathywiso 12 years, 6 months ago
        That tells me that you taught him well. My son, 20, read AS and joined here a few months ago, but is just now starting to post comments. It gives me hope to see young adults with the right values in this crazy world.. :)
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  • Posted by khalling 12 years, 6 months ago
    I read the Fountainhead first as well. It blew me away. even today, I think that if I had started with AS in college, I would have struggled with so many of the concepts, I'm not sure I would have kept reading. and most of the ingrained concepts of selfishness, altruism, turn the other cheek were rooted in my christian upbringing.
    But reading the Fountainhead first, helped me put words to the feelings I had about Man, in the first place. and I found Roark and Dominque's struggles moving and compelling. for everyone it is different-but I have always told people to begin with Fountainhead if they are unfamiliar with Rand. but now with the movies, so many are coming to Rand that way, and if moved, they're cracking open the kindle version of AS. :) There's lots of people in here who have not read Fountainhead or We the Living or Anthem. that is sooo curious to me.
    enjoy it in here coder, I'm getting ready to post some Locke-so you may well want to comment!
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    • Posted by 12 years, 6 months ago
      Thank you khalling. I wound up ordering the eBook (reason vs faith). I'm not expecting brilliance, nor even anything I've not previously heard. but you never know...
      It turns out that I have long considered Locke one of the key heroes of the 17th century, without which we might not have ever seen the USA nor Objectivism (wow, i just had to add that to my dictionary, I hope I spelled it right!)... so the Locke quote you flung out by itself is a good lure. (though I've only begun to read his work (I really do need to do more primary reading)).
      I fully expect to disagree with most of that book, but I don't read things just because I find them self-affirming (else why read the Bible?) I don't want my self to be only what it is now. I want it bigger and better. (I could add faster and cheaper, but I'm no longer a teenager).
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      • Posted by Non_mooching_artist 12 years, 6 months ago
        Hi Coder, thank you for posting such an honest intro. It was refreshing to read it, and respectful of the differing viewpoints of so many of us in here. Much more appreciated than a slash and burn intro! Your openness to what you've read shows a wisdom that's come with living on this earth and being in tune to what's around you. I hope you enjoy the lively and often provocative discussions here in the Gulch!
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