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"If this decision is made, it will mean nothing less than the direct participation of NATO countries, the United States, and European countries, in the war in Ukraine," - Putin
SOURCE URL: https://www.foxnews.com/world/ukraine-fires-first-barrage-us-made-long-range-missiles-russia-kremlin-says


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  • Posted by GaryL 1 week, 6 days ago
    Democrats are so Butt Hurt they are now on a direct path to destroy everything before Trump is sworn in. They have two months to go on a wild spending spree and piss off the entire world to the point of starting WW3 and they just don't care. The plan of allowing the outgoing admin 3.5 months after an election to do their final dirty work is just stupid and should be changed.
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    • Posted by term2 1 week, 6 days ago
      I agree that once the election is done, the transition of power should be immediate or at most one month.
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      • Posted by GaryL 1 week, 6 days ago
        The transition period is fine but I think once the new president is decided after the election the old president and his entire admin should have no ability to spend any new money or make any new legislation or do any pardons.
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        • Posted by term2 1 week, 6 days ago
          that sounds good, but its never going to happen
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          • Posted by GaryL 1 week, 6 days ago
            YUP and we are barking at the moon thinking anything can get fixed without some major changes along these lines and with the RINOs we keep electing.
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            • Posted by term2 1 week, 6 days ago
              I have to remind myself that the new politicians want the same things really for the government- more $$ and more power. (dont they call that the deep state)?
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              • Posted by $ SpiritWoman 1 week, 6 days ago
                No, the "Deep State", aka the "Global Deep State", aka the "vile entanglement of Leftism, especially the Jewish Left, and wealthy financiers, in particular wealthy Jewish financiers, and of course various and sundry NGO's, foundations, think tanks, & etc." is more complicated than that.

                And of course, lest I forget, the Internationalists, which comprise all of the above.
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    • Posted by freedomforall 1 week, 6 days ago
      This is the barely hidden Joseph Stalin coming out of all Deep State actors/bureaucrats/politicians/useful idiots. (RINO's will assist when needed.)
      Guess who is really the tyrant and a danger to the republican form of government that the founders intended and expressed specifically in the US Constitution.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 2 weeks ago
    This is really, really, really bad.

    Did I mention this is bad?...

    Agree with you, Jack. This is the ultimate in "election tampering"...Just blow up the whole fucking world.....
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 1 week, 6 days ago
    I could be wrong, but this is how me dino thinks this dangerous as hell stupid crap could very well play out.
    Since the beginning of his stolen regime, Biden has done the complete opposite of everything Trump did or would do.
    I also think if Putin nukes anyone, it will be only "let's play chicken with Biden" targets in the Ukraine.
    Biden's (along with puppeteers) only response will be giving Trump the "this is your mess now" middle finger when Orange Man Bad takes office.
    This my best guess. If I'm wrong, the worst that can happen is Earth will become a radioactive burnt out cinder or welcome to a lawless Road Warrior world inhabited by the few survivors.
    Now let us all try to have a nice day.
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    • Posted by term2 1 week, 6 days ago
      No one is going to go nuclear. Everyone knows that once started, it cant be stopped. The fact of the matter is that Russia wants to get whatever it can. In this case, what we have done is help Russia to anihilate Ulraine so whatever Russia gets will be worthless. There isnt much left of Ukraine, and by god I hope WE dont rebuild it.
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 1 week, 6 days ago
        More than likely you're +1 right. Putin has made nuking threats before and was a part of the USSR who once viewed their threats of shooting nukes at us as in the USA the same thing of nuking themselves.
        Nevertheless, I'm quite sure Putin is tempted to initiate the scenario I laid out. Biden is weak as tater water as a fellow corrections coworker used to say of those lacking intestinal fortitude.
        I also have a prediction of NATO's response for Putin nuking no one else but the Ukraine illustrated by listening to the sounds of chirping crickets and the subdued for worried squawks of very frightened chickens.
        I share your hope that we don't rebuild Ukraine whatever happens next. Zelenskyy keeps visiting us like a famished vampire knowing that at least Democrats just love to fawn all over him while no one else in Europe gives him squat.
        He WILL be back. Vampires always return to where they've been invited. I once read Bram Stoker's Dracula.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 1 week, 4 days ago
    In today's article on yahoo about Moscow launching a mid-range hypersonic....I just love how all the liberal Trump-hating commenters are talking about how we should escalate the war and continue to attack Putin and Moscow while probably none of these idiots probably 1-have kids who will be drafted, 2-own a gun, 3-like guns, and couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper sack. This propensity to want violence from these dolts blows me away. Made me realize that over my lifetime I have taken on two principles: Molyneoux's "Non-Aggression Principle" and Jordan Peterson's "men should be dangerous". Walk softly but carry a big stick. Anything else is downhill from there...
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    • Posted by $ gharkness 1 week, 4 days ago
      Jordan Peterson's "men should be dangerous." This is my favorite of all time. THIS is what I was looking for, without being able to express it (at first) when contemplating dating again after my divorce of 30+ years ago. My husband is that man. He is the least confrontational, least aggressive person you will ever meet, but it's a good idea not to push the wrong buttons.

      THIS is (IMO) what being a man is about. Thanks for bringing that up.
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      • Posted by $ Abaco 1 week, 1 day ago
        My pleasure. My son actually asked me if I could beat up Jake Paul the other day. I'm the same age as Mike Tyson. That cracked me up. Being dangerous allowed me to stand my ground in many circumstances - some of them being in my professional life and some in dealing with public schools. I'm the kindest dude you'll ever meet. I melt at babies and dogs, and even young people trying to scratch out their own existing in this capitalistic world. But, some have learned the hard way that I have a line in the sand and won't budge. I've had a meeting where it was me vs 12 public school officials and stood my ground...something I heard made the rounds about me. So be it. I'm not only Mike Tyson's age, but I'm the same measurements and have laced up the boxing gloves for 20 years. Good luck with that...haha! And, Peterson says one of the best ways to be dangerous is to be articulate. That's where I was with the school meeting. I knew very well what they were supposed to be doing and just told them they better do it...
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    • Posted by 1 week ago
      I agree, 100%, never heard anyone else say that before. I used to enjoy listening to Molyneoux until he left YouTube. Like Jordan Peterson as well, smart man.

      I’ve been saying we should legalize corporal punishment between citizens as means to handle disputes. Want to see our society clean up fast? A few public ass kickings and this just doesn’t happen anymore. Builds character in those that need it and allows for quick and decisive justice.
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  • Posted by term2 1 week, 6 days ago
    We are pushing Russia inch by inch, and its in support of some shit country . The argument is that if Ukraine goes to russia, so will most of europe. I really doubt that, as Russia would have a hell of a job controlling the former colonies in europe from major guerrila warfare from residents who were just not having russian control.

    I can onlyl imagine if Russia tried to control the USA. I would like to see their soldiers march up MY street...
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    • Posted by 1 week, 5 days ago
      We meddled in the Ukraine election, remember when Russia released the tape recorded message of Nuland where she was recorded in saying “Fuck the EU”. It also was an admission of tampering with the Ukraine election, which has skillfully covered for by our news media.

      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe...

      We installed a western leader…

      Russia doesn’t want NATO on their boarder, its that simple. Along with the western leaders, we started to use them to launder US tax payers money back to the global “New world government” plan. Ukraine has been instrument
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      • Posted by term2 1 week, 5 days ago
        the usa is not innocent of meddling where it shouldnt- over the years and in many ways.
        How about the usa government sticks to serving ITS citizens and not using its power to enrich corporate interests.
        If I were trump, I would say a few things to Putin-
        1) This Ukraine war is hurting Russia, USA, and Ukraine, as well as Europe.
        2) It was a mistake for the USA to prod Russia and fight a potential ally on behalf of a country where we had nothing to gain, and it was a mistake for Russia to expect that Ukraine would simply fall in a few days.
        3) Ukraine is pretty much destroyed and is not of value to anyone, least of all the Ukrainian people. Russia spent billions and is hated, so did the USA. And what did either of us get.....
        4) If Russia pulls back its forces from some disputed areas, and The USA will vote against whats left of Ukraine entering NATO and the war is OVER
        5) USA and Russia should cooperate in the future, as we dont have any desire to invade or harm Russia.

        Sign here.....
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  • Posted by 2 weeks ago
    I don’t think even Biden approved this, from what I understand is that the initial report of this approval was from a friend of a reporter that heard it from others. It was unsubstantiated then other Nato countries followed suite and gave the green light; now it’s too late.

    Undersea cables have been severed
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/...

    This is the path of escalation to WW3.
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  • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 week, 5 days ago
    Unfuckingbelievable.
    Determined to be too childlike to face court proceedings on document mishandling, but TraitorJoe can get the world into a nuclear exchange without a whimper from Congress?
    W. T. F?
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 1 week, 5 days ago
    Now is the time to go to YouTume, open a bottle of wine and watch "Threads". Watched it tonight...Well, I can't get through it anymore because it's too real. Just...watch it.
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    • Posted by $ gharkness 1 week, 4 days ago
      OK, I think (among the ridiculous amount of "advertising" for the Zuckerberg "Threads" app, I found it?

      Is this it?

      269K views 1 year ago #RealDrama #movie #movies
      Young lovers Ruth (Karen Meagher) and Jimmy (Reece Dinsdale) decide to get married after Ruth unexpectedly gets pregnant. But their quiet lives in Sheffield, England, are threatened when the Soviet Union and United States go to war. After a nuclear attack destroys a NATO base 20 miles from Sheffield, the town falls into chaos. Ruth and Jimmy are separated as the fallout spreads. Ruth must struggle to survive alone in the post-apocalyptic landscape. …
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 1 week, 5 days ago
    In light of the ass-whoopin' the Dems got in the election....This is like telling a little kid standing in a candy shop that he can't have any more candy, handing him a bat, some dynamite, and a few hand grenades and then letting him throw a giant tantrum, leveling the place. Somebody needs to slow these idiots down before we're back to dust and cockroaches. I heard (I hope it's not true) that our side is also planting land mines. I picture a kid out playing fetch with his dog stepping on one and Biden smiling that stupid little smile about it...
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  • Posted by 1 week, 5 days ago
    I understand that the UK has followed suite and authorized the use of their guided missiles for use to strike Russia, Ukraine has not wasted time to embroil the UK in the ext global conflict and has struck Russia with their weapons this time. This is an obvious attempt in triggering WW3… Maybe they are desperate and causing mass pain for the world will allow them to seize control.
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  • Posted by CharlesRAnderson 1 week, 6 days ago
    Calm down. It is just another Putin attempt to bully everyone. Putin cannot even defeat Ukraine, let alone NATO. He knows it too.
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    • Posted by $ SpiritWoman 1 week, 5 days ago
      How do you know that?
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      • Posted by CharlesRAnderson 1 week, 5 days ago
        Putin has been in power for a very long time, giving him a long history to be examined. He is fanatical about holding power, but you cannot hold power if you are dead or if the country you control becomes worthless. As is the case with bullies, he thrives on the fears of others. You handle bullies by standing up to them. If you do not stand up to them, they take more and more until you are their slave.
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        • Posted by $ SpiritWoman 1 week, 5 days ago
          Ever hear of the Perimeter System, or the Dead Hand?

          "According to Vladimir Yarynich, a developer of the system, this system also served as a buffer against hasty decisions based on unverified information by the country's leadership. Upon receiving warnings about a nuclear attack, the leader could activate the system, and then wait for further developments, assured by the fact that even the destruction of all key personnel with the authority to command the response to the attack could still not prevent a retaliatory strike. Thus, use of the system would theoretically reduce the likelihood of a false-alarm-triggered retaliation."

          "The purpose of the Dead Hand system, as described in the book of the same name,[8][9] was to maintain a second-strike capability, by ensuring that the destruction of the Soviet leadership would not have prevented the Soviet military from releasing its weapons."

          Those tidbits are from Wikipedia.
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        • Posted by $ SpiritWoman 1 week, 5 days ago
          Who are you calling a bully?

          News from RT:
          "Moscow also responded to the use of the British- and American-made long-range weapons with a combined missile strike of its own, the Russian president said. According to Putin, the attack involved some of the most advanced Russian weapons, including a new ballistic missile. The strike targeted a military industrial facility in the Ukrainian city of Dnepropetrovsk (also known as Dnipro in Ukraine).
          On Tuesday, the British state broadcaster the BBC reported, citing defense sources, that Ukraine has fired Storm Shadow missiles at targets in Russia’s Kursk Region.
          The claim followed outgoing US President Joe Biden reportedly permitting Kiev to use American ATACMS missiles to strike territory which is internationally recognized as part of Russia. Neither Washington nor London have officially confirmed allowing Ukraine to deploy their long-range weaponry for such purposes."
          The updated Russian nuclear doctrine, which was approved earlier this week, states that an attack on the country by a foreign nation that does not have weapons of mass destruction, but is backed by a nuclear power, should be considered a joint attack by both."

          I have two questions for you:
          Has the proxy war become less proxy and more real?
          Do you discount that Putin says what he means and does what he says?
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        • Posted by $ SpiritWoman 1 week, 5 days ago
          So, you have examined his long history. Fake news and everything. The Deep State, the Global Deep State, loves fake news. Nights in White Satin, see my comment on my latest thread. "For Those Who Lack The Courage".
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  • Posted by katrinam41 1 week, 6 days ago
    The only way to change the long wait between election and swearing in is by changing the Constitution. The Founding Fathers enshrined that particular item at the very beginning, when there was a huge lag in communication between the colonies. It is no longer useful, should be removed, but a constitutional convention followed by the proper voting is the only legal way to do it.
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