The Middle East is disintegrating

Posted by $ blarman 10 years, 9 months ago to News
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Turkey is the last of the secular Islamic states in the region. If it, too, gets invaded by ISIS, the whole region will destabilize en route to a massive regional conflict.


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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 10 years, 9 months ago
    Islam began as a twist on Judaeo-Christianity intended to appeal to Arab nomads, but as with most variations of Abrahamic faith, it was tripped up by the directions those twists took. Many modern Muslims have been attracted to the vision of peaceful tolerance as opposed to the destructive violence of inter-tribal conflict inherent in pre-Islamic culture. Others have adopted Islam as reinforcement of those violent behaviors. The Sunni-Shia feud is just Arab tribal wars brought forward and expanded to a world wide battle.
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  • Posted by TheOldMan 10 years, 9 months ago
    For something to disintegrate, it needs to have integrated in the first place. And that does not describe the ME. The "countries" of the ME did not evolve on their own, they were forced after WWI. Toss in very strong religious differences without rule of law and it will never work.
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  • Posted by $ Snezzy 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Rand spoke at Ford Hall Forum in Boston on 21 October 1973, during the ending days of the Yom Kippur war that had started on 6 October. During the Q&A session after her talk she specifically mentioned Israel as being, in spite of its religious foundation its and socialist leanings, the only civilized country in the area. She characterized the Arabs as "nomads" not worthy of any consideration.

    After the lecture there were some pro-Israel people outside Jordan Hall collecting donations.
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  • Posted by jerry1228 10 years, 9 months ago
    we are using the wrong bombs over there. we need to be using bombs that make glass and never look back at the collateral damage because there is none. they are all our enemy. male female child you name them. they are not educated by choice except in the Koran so they are not worth saving.
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  • Posted by $ Susanne 10 years, 9 months ago
    Riddle me this...

    Why do all these religions that seem to enjoy mass murder, and justify it by something someone else said, have to have some sort of so-called prophecy to fulfill? Why can't they just take personal responsibility for their actions, and decide , on their own, to do what's right rather than have some scapegoatish dogma or guilt their way into power thing...

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  • Posted by Temlakos 10 years, 9 months ago
    Ayn Rand completely ignored the Middle East in her writings. She later wrote that Israel was the only democracy in the region and deserve U.S. support on that ground. But I don't think she had the slightest idea of the trends there--or the baleful prophecies.

    Now I realize I'm in a forum dedicated to--well, someone who didn't accept the idea of God. I respect that, mainly because Rand, unlike most atheists, still respected the individual and did not seek to substitute government for God as an object of worship. But if anybody is interested, I have an idea for a sequel to AS that I'm willing to share--that involves some of those baleful prophecies coming true, not only in the Middle East but worldwide. I promise not to share unless someone expresses an interest.
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  • Posted by edweaver 10 years, 9 months ago
    It is my belief that the entire middle east will be in chaos by the 4th quarter of 2015. We will be drug into another large scale battle. Hope to be wrong but we are on the course right now. :(
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  • Posted by $ 10 years, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Oh, I agree that they want the conflict, but it will first start out as the Muslims fighting themselves: Sunni vs Shiite vs Baathist vs Wahab all for religious control. They might band together long enough to gang up on Israel, but they first have to knock off Egypt (a supporter of Israel), Jordan, (another neighbor), and Syria.

    Oh, wait. They've already done all that.

    Next in line is Oman, Yemen, UAB, and then on to the last grand prize: Saudi Arabia. Then we'll watch as the next version of the Ottoman Empire rears its ugly head and begins to look to expand.

    All I can hope is that the whole region doesn't go up in the next two years, but I fear that the table is already set.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 10 years, 9 months ago
    I think its just the opposite, its forming into what muslims always wanted. The road of islam creates a unified world under islam and the subjugation or death of anyone who opposes. This is a foreseeable stop as anyone not muslim AND any moderate muslim is butchered publicaly as an example AS WE WATCH ON IN DENIAL.

    Only when it happens here - eruption out of concentrated pockets in every state (particularly Michigan) will the left and the libertarians realize the fallacy in their complacency but it could already be too late.

    No, its not disintegrating..its fulfilling THEIR prophesy.
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