I'll PM you. I have three source docs I'm working with.
The process of investigation is in infancy as we are a bit scattered geographically. Properties are not conjoined.
Winter up here? Mild for the past thirty years compared to the previous twenty I remember. Jan 9,12 and 13 we had 5,7 and 7 inch snow falls. Then we had "zeros" for a week; now everything is melting. Things have definitely been getting warmer since the global warming started ....... 40 ..... thousand years ago, or so, maybe .... or not.

Thank you for this information. Can you point me to the materials (books / papers) on how to move this process through the pipeline? I looked into this, briefly, 12 years ago when I bought my acreage in Washington State. There are a myriad of links out on the interweb; however, getting the scoop from an individual that is actually making this happen would be more efficient.

Regarding the half-dozen individual land owners there in Wisconsin working toward Allodial Title -- are your properties adjacent? I would think that this would be of benefit.

A few good things about Wisconsin-- I have family, friends, connections there. Plus, as another old college friend noted -- you need to be of hearty mind and body to put up with Wisconsin Winters. True enough ... one big reason for now living in S. Arizona. Thanks for anything that you can provide to me re Allodial Title (in Wisconsin, et al).

WI is allodial title State. It is a process. It is lawful. Have a couple hundred pages of the process to initially review as well as the research of transference of ownership since county inception. There are half dozen of us working on this.

If you get to WI holler out.

And the local governments keep you enslaved by that property unless you can convert it back from estate to private property.

Flying under the radar. I have a few options. Although I now live in Sierra Vista, AZ (10 miles from Mexico border), I still own acreage in E. Washington (mixed use / partnership with a neighbor growing hay for profit) and Colorado. There's the option to move back to Washington State and build there / be in the company of fellow libertarians / free market folks. Or build in Colorado. Or move back to Wisconsin and get some acres near old friends that have multi-generational farms. As you say, talk is cheap, real-property is real - priceless.

You decide how to use your production and be happy. 👍
(Big business attracts big looters. Starve them to death.)

Yeah ..... selling hope. I try to name solutions.
Dobrien posted yesterday on public banking system that was in force until 1967.

The US Treasury could sell monies to banks at production value and, under some fairly stringent guidelines, be paid in some sort of fee/tax/non-profit mode from the profits at face value. This is used to fund government service at County, State and Fed level.

End non-profit status for any business.

Overhaul the school system. We teach expressive language, objective philosophy, civics and law as primary. I've stated prior within this post. This rids us of the realschule vs volkschule dilemma of elites and plebeians.

Re-establish the organic representation instead of the corporate DC debacle of statute vs rights. The history between 1861 and 1871 is skewed with misrepresentation and usurpation of powers.

End Democracy. Make a clean statement, in law, the difference between Electors and Voters. Any one may become an Elector by holding land unencumbered by debt. Leverage business owners who have more than (5?) employees and own their place of production unencumbered ..... these are the risk takers/stake holders. The Electors decide the election. The voters petition the electors.

Just a few ideas.

So...what to do?
I closed manufacturing business of 30 years. Told my customer base to .... go away. Mostly global 100 manufacturers.
Moved 300 miles to a county 3% of the previous metro area. Last day of March 2020.
Developed my lil gardens "Dystopia Farms". Now eating 80-85% from my resources and procuring my other necessities from a consortium of approx 100 individuals with 1000 acres between us. I know my beef/hog/fowl producers and have the opportunity to name my little "feasties" at will. We are all studying the present debacle from a plethora of resources. Farmers to Pharmacists. I'm kinda the go-between as a farm-assist and a pharm-assist. Just scored 1k 12mg Iver for $650! I also have a supply, ever growing, of Aronia juices. Highest natural Quercetin value we can find, and the largest mid-west producer of Elderberry is only 20 miles away. Like you, within the climbing arena, I gravitate to off-shore sailors, being mutual mortality is the binding factor of interdependence. Within my new community we all perceive our mutual mortality is under assault. We are all preparing for the worst. In today's world, words are cheap, real equitable actions ...... priceless.

And now, instead of developing manufacturing processes and solutions for the mega-corps, I get under semi tractor and trailer with a specialty repair and have 5 times the profitability. They desire the service as it restores operation, depending on the repair, for 12-20% of replacement .... and usually within 48 hours vs a two week wait for the latter.

I've already won the game of life .... I've not been this happy since I was 6.

Boom. This excellent video is making the rounds. The speaking and presentation skills of Dr. Shiva are remarkable. It is one thing to Know what is going on and How it is being Orchestrated ... but to put a halt to it? I think that Dr. Shiva, like others with a Liberty-Mindset, is selling Hope -- they package it and sell it to themselves as well as anyone that will listen and learn.

So -- what is one to do? If you cannot change the System, then work to change Yourself.
Identify anchor points that you have with the System, then minimize / eliminate them.
Get off any prescription meds.
Be cautious of what you choose to put into your body (food, hydration, needles, dope...)
Be extra cautious of what you choose to put into your mind (lots of anxiety-inducing nonsense out there).
Avoid crazy people (some are dangerous, others are just harmless loons ... but, steer clear of crazy).
Cultivate relationships with sound-grounded folks (I really dig mountain climbing and climbers - there is no way to fake your way to the top of Rainier, Adams, Shasta, Hood, Gannett, Granite, McKinley, Aconcagua...)
Think -- that would be a verb -- by constantly asking, "Is That True?" "What Evidence Supports the Claim?"
And -- keep the dialog rolling here in The Gulch.

I think it's much earlier than that. I think "The Apprentice" was a training ground for him to improve his elocution and his stage presence.

As for shiva-mail, loads of us who used Arpanet mail, DEC's mail, Multics mail, etc. (way back when) laughed when Shiva put himself forth as having INVENTED it.

You want REAL programming look at The Story of Mel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sto...

They, the Faucis, Ivy League professors, POTUS liberals, CIO who shold know better, they all listen to the same lying media led by the Biddberger bunch. They do no research on their own, to dumb or brainwashed to evaluate a reasearch paper. They looke down on the unnecessary common man who thinks for himself, they cannot have that olest they be shown for the vumbling fools they are. Their solution, go with Agenda 21, get rid of 75% of US, no challenge to their stupid thinking then, no one to dirty their precious Earth. Take awa y religion, no one can be above them. Lie about ETs, no one can be that much advance to them as aliens are. Fools and liars, and that is the only way they can survive.

Concur on #1. Wish I had access to the Joint Chiefs and JAG to confirm recruitment. Guessing 2012-13
Shiva holds Copyright on "EMAIL" since 1981. I remember seeing my cousin communicate as you describe, from terminal at UW LaCrosse in 74.

They're easy to spot if you grew up around them.
My family (both sides) is lousy with narcissists, psychopaths, Dark Triads and Dark Tetrads.

I've got a couple of problems with Shiva, in spite of his good insights on interlocking control.
1. I think that The Donald was recruited long ago for the role he currently fills. I don't think he's part of the swamp even though he's spent time there.
2. Dr. Shiva "invented" email in 1978. But I was using it on the Arpanet in 1976. I believe we called it "mail"

Here's Willie Kantrowitz's info from the 1974 Arpanet Directory including his computer mail address.

KANTROWITZ, William WK
M.I.T. Lincoln Lab - TX2 Group
244 Wood Street
Lexington, Massachusetts
02173
LINCOLN@BBN-TENEX
(617) 862-5500 ext 7349
LL-TX-2

No, I'm not entirely convinced by Shiva.

Nasty...I knew a few like that. One tried to model himself after Francisco. Talk about a dark tetrad... he was 180° off and a failure at everything but the tetrad.

His insights are a reasonably accurate historical abstract from Plato to any current authoritarian. It falls consistently within our Objectivist beliefs with empirical examples of the mixture of state and economics and the top-down dissemination from the controlling elites. Remember what Lord Acton said.

Simple fundamental philosophical principles: identify, validate, act. From that basic understanding, one can rationally get as complex as desired.

I like statements that can express simplicity beyond the complex. However, this requires that I have explored the complex to appreciate the simplicity.
35 years of business ownership, the requirements to protect my interests, an undying love of expressive language and insatiable curiosity are the foundation for the next stage of learning. I'm not liking what I discover in many aspects. Yet, to refute would not be objective. I know there are simpler solutions. Dobrien posted on public banking institution through the Post Office last night. I think Joe Lange is spot-on. Once again, simplicity beyond complexity .... in concept, at least.

Dark Tetrad.
Look it up.

Great video. He also did an excellent one on the vax and the immune system when covid first hit

Wow. And now it is documented.

Shocking results! But if you think about it, we already knew it. The "freedoms" discussion is probably all around gun control and climate change. They think we have too much freedom, because the ones they seek to limit, they don't practice, so they are irrelevant.

I easily fall into the "elite" category, and suspect many here do too, except the the 10,000/sq mile population density in my zip code. My town is less than 500/sq mile. I would NEVER live where the population is >10,000/sq mile, and I suspect the population density is a bigger indicator of the results than the other metrics.

The $500 vs $100 in taxes for climate change is misleading. People with much lower income have much less disposable income. I joined the NRA and GOAL with life memberships. Each was $1,500-ish, and in terms of my objectives (more freedom, including firearm freedom), the $3,000 was a trivial investment. To idiot-lemmings who are so much smarter in "science", $500 to fight the invented issue is similarly an easy decision. Jesus, buying an EV is a much bigger investment than $500.

I like the message. It is what I have discovered through independent individuals and groups and all my historical reading/research.
Trust the guy? Hmmm..... don't know him. Can it be a facade to lead into something I don't want? Perhaps I'll explore.
Until there are real penalties, including mortal, for the transgressions, the abuses will continue. The example is of an immortal robot from The Objectivist's Ethics.

I'm finding the same. Last night I also did a search for his videos on YouTube and found some fluff but no real substance. He has a bunch of books on Amazon, but I didn't have time to really look into them and determine which one would be a good start - maybe later. None are cheap and I didn't see any available on kindle. Other than the video link given here, I couldn't add much to what he's really about. I'll hold on to my money for now.

And he wants to be paid before he'll share his self-claimed insights just on his word without any evidence that there is anything of value there?
The web site looks more like a multi-level scam. I tried signing up (the free option) and the confirmation email never came, so no access.