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What “Cash for Clunkers” Was Really All About

Posted by freedomforall 5 months, 1 week ago to Politics
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"You may recall the Obama-era “Cash for Clunkers” business. It was a very dirty business and a key element of Obama’s declared intention to fundamentally transform the United States – though to this day many people do not understand just how key it has proved to be.

The plan was sold to the public as a means of “stimulating” the then-flatlined American car industry, which was almost literally (and in GM’s case, actually) bankrupt. The idea was to get people to buy new cars by paying them to throw away their old cars.

Italics added.

The cars were not traded in. Not even “parted out” – i.e., their major components (such as their engines, in particular) removed in order to be re-sold to someone in need of low-cost replacement parts. They were destroyed. Engines dosed with silica and then run until they seized – so as to render them unusable.

Consider the implications.

The Obama regime surely did.

While on the surface – as in, superficially – the “cash for clunkers” program was about getting people to buy new cars, it was fundamentally about getting rid of affordable (older) cars. And the reason for that was to fundamentally transform the country – by breaking the generations-long tradition of young people becoming independently mobile almost-adults while they were still in their teens."
SOURCE URL: https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2023/11/26/what-cash-for-clunkers-was-really-all-about/


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    Posted by $ BobCat 5 months, 1 week ago
    I see it as even MORE than the removal of older cars... it was a test balloon to see if the target group of 'clunker drivers' (which included drivers of decent cars) would march lock step to the wishes of big govt with a little coaxing of $. Govt quickly discovered that even a little $ can control the masses of sheep.
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    • Posted by tutor-turtle 5 months, 1 week ago
      The lie goes so much deeper. The Kenyan said "We must get those inefficient, polluting old cars off the road"
      In reality, cars in the 4 to 7-year-old range were what was destroyed.
      The perfect used car for all sorts of people including adults who could not (and still can not) afford a new car.
      And riddle me this Batman, what was the source of the "Cash"?
      Don't hesitate too long, you know full well who paid to have all those perfectly good cars destroyed: We The Taxpayers
      Not only did it wreck the used car market, it wrecked the car parts market and the car repair market
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  • Posted by mccannon01 5 months, 1 week ago
    Another loss to the American teen the article doesn't address is all the skills a teenager (and presumably his buddys who join in the adventure of helping each other) no longer develop because no car can be had at a young age. By the time I was 20 I, and my pards, could practically take a car or motorcycle apart and reassemble it. I had to pick up on mechanics, electronics, and even paint. I helped my son develop the same skills as he got a job at 16 and needed a car. Those days are gone now and the kids never get the skills. I see the loss in my grand sons, one who is 28 and just got his license to drive. I never thought of the genesis of dumbed down teens (mechanical-wise) may have been helped along by cash for clunkers type programs.
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    • Posted by $ gharkness 5 months, 1 week ago
      Yes, I have a 21 YO grandson who has never been behind the wheel of a car. His 3-year-younger sister - almost 19 - hasn't either. Neither of them has any interest in that, either. (The grandson has a serious mental illness and will likely never drive at this point, but even before he was afflicted with that, when he was 19, he had zero interest. He said it was "too dangerous.")

      I grew up in Texas, of course, where the minimum age for licensing was 14, back in 1964. You better know that the very SECOND I was eligible to do so, I enrolled in drivers' ed, and the very second I passed the behind-the-wheel portion, I was down at the license office. My kids did the same. By then it was 15 for a restricted license and 16 for full. They even both had cars bought (clunkers of course) from their after-school jobs before they had their licenses.
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      • Posted by term2 5 months, 1 week ago
        My first car was a 1950 plymouth I got when I was 17 (minimum age to drive in NJ), which hardly ran, but I didn't care for the price of $25. It needed new valves, which I installed myself somehow. It ran for a number of years reliably until I could afford to move up to a used 1957 chryser that my aunt sold me cheap. Today, I don't think this route is available, given car complexity and costs.
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        • Posted by tutor-turtle 5 months, 1 week ago
          Yup. $100-dollar-specials. Buy one, drive it until it won't pass state inspection, buy another.
          10 years old and/or 100K miles on the clock was rule for a cheap ride.
          One wheel in the ditch, and the other in the bone yard.
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      • Posted by $ gharkness 5 months, 1 week ago
        Couldn't edit, so I'll just add this: both those grandkids had a perfectly good Lexus waiting for them, provided by Mom and Dad....they just didn't want to drive it! I can't even imagine!
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        • Posted by CaptainKirk 5 months, 1 week ago
          I've seen the same thing.
          But I BET they have PHONES...

          My daughter had a DUMB phone as she entered High School/University.

          She got a Smart Phone for Perfect Grades. With the caveat of NO Twitter/Social Media.

          She spent summers in TN, and we taught her to drive out there. I remember making her park in EVERY spot up and down 2 rows at a closed grocery store. Poor kid. LOL. Practice makes perfect.

          Finally, I bet if you took away their phones, and their computers (screens)... They'd want that car!
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        • Posted by bobsprinkle 5 months, 1 week ago
          Unless you/&kids live in an urban area with public transport.....how do they get around?
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          • Posted by term2 5 months, 1 week ago
            Ever really use public transport ? Its ridiculously inefficient, actually not as safe as they are promoting, and it takes forever to get around. Not to mention that it uses public money which it gets from YOUR pocket.
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          • Posted by $ gharkness 5 months, 1 week ago
            Remember they are not MY kids. And yes they live in DFW but wouldn't be caught dead in public transport (not that there is any). Their parents take them around, but ALSO remember that during their most formative times, they were confined to HOME due to Covid. My GDs best friend lives in England, another one in Austin, and several in Japan. I doubt she knows much of anyone any more in her local town, so there's really nowhere she wants to go. My GS goes nowhere.
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            • Posted by bobsprinkle 5 months, 1 week ago
              ok. my bad. I see you said GRANDkids.
              I lived in Dallas for about 13 years. Seemed like personal transportation was needed for survival. But, we all have different circumstances
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              • Posted by $ gharkness 5 months, 1 week ago
                Yes, but I raised my kids there and they were driving at 15, because they HAD to if they wanted to go anywhere. As long as they needed me to drag them around, I did so (for legit reasons.) But the INSTANT they were able, they managed their own transport. I totally get what you mean. I've been so shocked to see kids these days relying on their parents in their late teens AND twenties.
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    • Posted by term2 5 months, 1 week ago
      I started being interest in mechanical things with my first 1950 Plymouth (affectionately named the HEAP). One thing led to another, and I wound up learning mechanical engineering and using that to invent and sell products I manufactured. That old car was really helpful in giving me the confidence to become an engineer. Today, its much more difficult for young people to even understand the complexities of today's cars (its nice when they work though!!) . How is the country going to survive? Maybe everyone codes and plays video games I suppose.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 5 months, 1 week ago
    Long story short, Obama's fundamental treason is still evident in his ongoing third term.
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    • Posted by tutor-turtle 5 months, 1 week ago
      O'BuyDumb.
      Unfit for duty since 1973.
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      • Posted by $ allosaur 5 months, 1 week ago
        Me dino was unaware that jerk even walked the earth until an Obamanation picked him to run with him as vice-president.
        Told a lib I knew that I could not believe BuyDumb had been picked due to the stupid blather that kept coming out of his mouth.
        The lib became offended and told me that doofus was a well-respected member of Congress.
        "Well respected?" I exclaimed, laughing long and hard.
        That lib never talked to me ever again. I didn't miss him.
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  • Posted by janblacha 5 months, 1 week ago
    I said it then and I will repeat it again. This was about getting rid of the old cars and to replace them with cars that could not be fixed, they could be traced via computers, they could be cut off by electronics and to prevent the continued mentally of being self-suffiecient.
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    • Posted by Aeronca 5 months, 1 week ago
      Also true. A lot of modern cars now need the dealer or shop to use a $700 computer to release the brake pistons. No longer a cheap easy home job to change your brake pads.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 5 months, 1 week ago
    To me, it was Obama sucking up to the UN, who wanted cars gone. It was about Obama pushing EVs, which would quickly take down the grid, but importantly, make cars out of the range where the young families and poor could not afford to buy a new car, and the used ones were destroyed. Oh, vey diabolical, as I see it.
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  • Posted by term2 5 months, 1 week ago
    Today its almost imperative to NOT listen to people trying to get you to do things or think a certain way. Hidden Agendas are everywhere today, and they are there to benefit the person pushing them- NOT YOU. I have adopted the following- Listen to what they say, analyze it without the emotion they seem to put into their arguments and formulate what they REALLY want- See if THAT benefits you,and act accordingly.

    Almost universally what is being promoted DOESNT benefit the receiver.
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  • Posted by rhfinle 5 months, 1 week ago
    "Cash for clunkers" was at least partially about putting small-time mechanics out of business.
    I have a particular bone to pick with this program. I'm a Jeep nut. Among other things I have four XJ Cherokees. A large number of these solid, dependable cars were pretty much thrown away because of Obama's program. I went to a Dallas junkyard and pulled parts for my '96 off of an identical '96 which in every way was in nicer shape than mine - except that it had had the engine purposefully destroyed. I hope the previous owner enjoyed the $250 he got for it. I would have considered that the worst deal in history, losing a dependable 4wd car that got around 26 MPG. I'm sure he'll be glad to know that a part of his nice jeep lives on, in my primary bug-out vehicle, somewhere in SC.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 5 months, 1 week ago
    Yup. I have a son and daughter who work and both need a car to get there. But try finding anything on the market <$5K. Nope. And the price of a new car is simply ridiculous: upwards of $80!

    Adam Smith nailed it when he noted that a mobile workforce was the key to a working labor market, enabling workers with skills and mobility to go to other markets. The leftists know this, too: control means depriving people of mobility and choice.
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  • Posted by ohiocrossroads 5 months, 1 week ago
    Yes, that's what it was about. But people see through that crap now. After a decade of the gummint pushing EV's they are piling up on lots and manufacturers are pulling the plug on their production. People see how expensive new cars are and are holding onto their old ones.
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  • Posted by Aeronca 5 months, 1 week ago
    So sad, these people are evil, attacking the youth. No wonder they are so angry and apathetic. And then smashed with the false hope of a miraculous education with nothing but debt-slavery resulting. I'd feel the same way if the Government did that to me.
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  • Posted by janblacha 5 months, 1 week ago
    All that THEY will do is to stop us by not issuing license plates to these cars. Their plan is already in implantation with the lies of EVs. Suckers.
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  • Posted by janblacha 5 months, 1 week ago
    My newest car is a 2010.
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    • Posted by $ Snezzy 5 months, 1 week ago
      We're all pickup trucks. Newest one is a 97 Ranger that's waiting for me to fix it. Maybe. Best one is a 92 Dodge 250 Cummins 12-valve, next best the same thing but a dually 350, 1993. Our other truck is an 87 Dodge with the 316 V8, and our excellent mechanic keeps it going well. The Cummins engines have given almost no trouble in 30 years. The going price for a used D250 dropped from our $20,000 purchase price to about $5000 a few years ago, but now you can get them for about $35,000.

      So one day in the Walmart parking lot a guy said to me, "I had one of those (D250) and like an idiot I sold it. You wanna sell me that one?" I said, "Do I look like an idiot?"
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    • Posted by rhfinle 5 months, 1 week ago
      The newest one we have, that wasn't inherited from dead relatives, is a '99. I'm going to put the miles on my father-in-law's 2010 Ram until it drops, then switch back to one of my old Jeeps.
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