The Optimist Club

Posted by mshupe 1 year, 6 months ago to Economics
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Instead of the unrelenting focus on the corrupt and incompetent ignorati in government, here's a taste of what's happening in the realm of reason applied to reality. The article is short.


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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 1 year, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Consider how many phone numbers and addresses you used to remember before cell phones. Who will take the time to write programs, novels, do higher math when AI achieves prominence?

    If you have no reason to use your mind you will lose its true value and become dependent on a thing. Once dependent you are no longer steering your life but are led.

    I'm not saying no one will find benefit (producers), but that just makes producers the masters of the herd. And the master seat will only last as long as it takes for the AI to phase that role out as well.
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  • Posted by 1 year, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think it's better to focus one's energy and talent one's own productive virtues, and the well-being of those to whom they are closest.
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  • Posted by 1 year, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    To the extent that power lines and drains need expert maintenance, those jobs will change as their manufacture and maintenance requirements change. All jobs have always been in peril with free minds and innovation.
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  • Posted by 1 year, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As you know, the regulation of this new technology is well underway, with the cooperation of the tech company management teams. Pragmatism is C-Suite America is a huge problem. They'd rather be part of the regulatory process to minimize their victimhood. They don't know that any compromise between food and poison is for the benefit of death.
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  • Posted by 1 year, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I think the most important consideration is the well-being of the producers. A moral society is one that respects and protects liberty so that the best minds among us are incentivized and rewarded. To refer to "mankind will amount to drones" commits the same intellectual crime of which the Soviets were so fond.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 1 year, 6 months ago
    Oh! Let's celebrate huge numbers of totally failed human beings because AI will come to the rescue! BS!!!
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  • Posted by Lucky 1 year, 6 months ago
    Disagree, it may be a sign of age, but well, we have all seen this sort of claim before about some technology advancing to eliminate jobs and work and it will be such a good thing.

    The other replies here have explained, yes some work and some jobs will go, for the most part what is called now as 'the laptop class', no regrets.
    It is the old style trades that continue to be in demand. Today's youth want to go to U and do social science or claptrap then get a job in an office.

    They have neither the intellect nor the dedication to become professionals, they will do the dirty work of which there is no end.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 1 year, 6 months ago
    AI is why the Deep State believes that most honest innocent people
    and small businesses are unimportant and genocide is the goal.
    How best to be rid of those pesky humans who still understand the
    Bill of Rights and might be able to fight for their rights?
    Perhaps a plandemic and vaccine with deadly side effects.
    Perhaps a nuclear war against countries who are tired of the
    financial and banking cartel's stealing from everyone else to
    benefit themselves.
    AI will be used to enslave, not to create freedom.
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  • Posted by $ Markus_Katabri 1 year, 6 months ago
    Disembodied AI can’t fix a power line. Or unclog a drain. And robotics is no where near what would be required. I should know. I installed them. But I do know who’s jobs will be in peril. If a person was able to “work from home” they’re in trouble. Tick Tock Tick Tock
    I already refuse to work in the electrical trade anymore for anything besides Silver Dollars. Since face value is just a dollar one can easily understand the tax implications.
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    Posted by $ AJAshinoff 1 year, 6 months ago
    Sorry, mankind will amount to drones with very few doing actual thought and even fewer using reason or having any degree of ambition. Anthem: will the individual become passe? Will thought, creativity, and ingenuity become criminal? The term idiot savant will no longer be a condition but a description of the vacuous minds feeding at the allotted teet and happily working each moment of every day to ensure the slop comes from the spigot.

    Lord, I wish I never wrote my novels so I didn't have to recognize these sign posts. But hey, lets cheer as we dance into the fire.
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 1 year, 6 months ago
    What optimism allows anyone to think that the ignorati and corrupt in government wont regulate this dream into the same mush that they have regulated the current pre-AI economy into? This unregulated government is the problem.
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  • Posted by 1 year, 6 months ago in reply to this comment.
    First, the general standard of living for any society is of secondary importance, an effect, a byproduct. Second, regarding skilled labor, the best solution is the price mechanism of free markets - always. Third, education is not a valid concept when attached to the force of government. The message of this article, this author, and his book is that more people will pursue more careers doing necessary and essential work they love, including the skilled trades.
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  • Posted by $ BobCat 1 year, 6 months ago
    All fine and dandy i suppose for those who think that the standard of living will not be affected by a dumbed down labor force.
    Tradesmen, such as plumbers, electricians, carpenters, HVAC, mechanics, pipe fitters, etc, and the general handyman repair man will still be needed. Have anyone tried to hire a General contractor lately? Long, long wait times just to be scheduled. - robots are not going to hang cabinets, repair or troubleshoot electrical wiring or change out a circuit breaker, remodel a kitchen, install heating ducts in existing walls, plumb in fixtures in the basement, and repair the goof-ups that the robots made.
    Secondly, education teaches, supposedly, how to think. Low test scores indicate that students today, don't know or understand critical thinking. I, for one, am not in favor of AI tending to my needs. I still want real intelligence and not artificial intelligence, when I hire a contractor.
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