The God of the Machine - Tranche 23

Posted by mshupe 1 year, 9 months ago to Economics
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Chapter XI, Excerpt 2 of 3
The Meaning of the Magna Carta

It is an infallible sign that the political authority is already exercising too much power through the manipulation of finance, whether by exorbitant taxation, uncontrolled expenditure unlimited borrowing, or currency depreciation. The Charter contains a promise from the king that if any man died in debt to money lenders “and if that debt falls into our hands, we will not take anything except the chattel contained in the bond.”

With a wisdom in advance of the age, it did not propose penalization of “the Jews” or financiers, but restriction on the authority of the crown. The industrial-commercial group must have been strongly influential in framing the Magna Carta, though not named as formal parties. “All merchants shall have safety and security in coming into England . . . and in staying and traveling through England.” The kinetic energy was allowed to make the long circuit. England was on the way to world power.

Wrong with this scheme was in the strictly feudal order. Serfs and other workers on the land constituted the factor of mass, and the function of mass was asserted passively, by inertia, through the inherent limitation feudalism imposed on production. The defect was the absence of the mass inertia veto, as a national function, both in fact and in law. The whole land-title system would have had to be altered, to provide individual holdings. Such a thing cannot be done overnight.


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  • Posted by $ blarman 1 year, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As originally intended, neither is bad. The Commerce Clause was originally inserted to prevent the States from taxing each other's products and services by establishing Federal supremacy. (Remember that under the Articles of Confederation, each State was its own sovereign and their tax and tariff policies were a major source of friction between them.) It was never intended to be used to create a regulatory agency with the authority to set product standards.

    The General Welfare clause has been similarly perverted. Originally, it was meant to specify that bills passed by Congress couldn't be used to benefit individual States (or special interest groups) to the exclusion of others, ie. that laws had to apply generally.
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  • Posted by bobsprinkle 1 year, 9 months ago
    The stuff of dreams and dreamers....Biden has presided over the devaluation and lowering the commercial status of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA
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  • Posted by 1 year, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, and I'm not well informed on the matter, but I believe the Commerce clause and the General Welfare clauses are the two primary flaws in the US Constitution that opened the floodgates for economic intrusion and today's federal protection racket.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 1 year, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And all the member banks pay back to customers, former customers, descendants of customers, etc.
    all the interest they collected from customers on loans made above the banks actual cash available
    to loan. That would be interest on roughly 90% of all loans made since the fed res act was passed.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 1 year, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Here's my proposal - and if I were in a position of power I'd probably be killed for suggesting it.
    1) Mandate that the Federal Reserve assume all current US debt.
    2) Pass a law saying gold and silver were legal tender for all transactions (currently they are not).
    3) Audit the Fed and demonstrate they are culpable for the theft of untold wealth.
    4) Issue new banknotes backed by the gold in Fort Knox as replacements.
    5) Make the Federal Reserve eat all the existing notes and go bankrupt.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 1 year, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Unfortunately, that doesn't really exist. What you need is a form of government which supports and entrenches a free economy and rejects encroachments upon it. The US used to have such policies but these were gradually and incrementally worn down over time by the encroachment and empowerment of the bureaucratic state.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 1 year, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Do you base your ideology on reports in the press? Do you base your support of Ayn Rand's Objectivism on reviews of Atlas Shrugged?
    No rational person without conflict of interest can read the Creature From Jekyll Island and still support the banking cartel's century of theft from virtually everyone else.
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  • Posted by 1 year, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Thanks, and I believe you've mentioned this book before. I've not read it; only read some commentary about it, and according to a couple of credible sources, its context is lacking objectivity, to say the least. Regardless, not only does its conclusions lack credibility, but it also doesn't seem relevant to anything I've said. To be sure, the Fed needs to be eliminated, or at least 80% of its authority. In addition, and as stated, my original reply to your comment was spontaneous, and after thinking about it, damn good.
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  • Posted by 1 year, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Spoken like a true Commie! Well done, Comrade! So exactly how do you propose to identify these crime victims? How do you propose to identify those who may have used "the corrupt system" to amass wealth? Did Ragnar deliver gold bars to "the people?" Was Ayn Rand corrupt for accessing her Social Security benefits? If you want to bar government employees from participating in this auction idea, great, but how do you prevent them from participating in partnerships or using proxies? Are you confused by the fact that there is no collective mind, there is no common good, there is no non profit? Are you confused by the fact that this series of posts is centered on a book titled The God of the Machine? Are you confused by the fact that this forum is titled from Part III of a novel titled Atlas Shrugged? Do you not understand that money demands the best and charity demands the worst?
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  • Posted by freedomforall 1 year, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    While I understand your confused observation, selling stolen goods is yet another crime.
    Stolen goods should be returned to the victims of the crimes, not sold to others who may have used the corrupt system to amass wealth.
    The victims of the crimes do not have the wealth to buy the property that was stolen because it was stolen from them.
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  • Posted by j_IR1776wg 1 year, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    And afterwards deny permission for all levels of government to tax property and income and commerce.
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  • Posted by 1 year, 9 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I disagree - not divested to 'the people'. That is a collectivist idea and a false concept. Off the top of my head, a better idea would be an auction with the proceeds used to pay federal government debt and the balance distributed to municipal and state governments in exchange for a dollar-for-dollar reduction in property taxes.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 1 year, 9 months ago
    "Such a thing cannot be done overnight."
    The 'royal family' should have had their unearned holdings 'divested' to the people at least a century ago.
    The banking cartel is also overdue to have their stolen loot seized to prevent more assassinations and wars.
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  • Posted by 1 year, 9 months ago
    The separation of economy and state = the long energy circuit of a morally just society = decentralized knowledge and authority.
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