A nasty solution like that might work once word gets out, but I have a problem with killing unarmed civilians. The US is spending a fortune on this problem and the way it's being handled it is getting worse. Maybe try this:

1) Finish the wall to limit points of entry.
2) Round up the perpetrators same as now and place them in temporary border camps same as now.
3) Instead of spending the money on transporting them to within the 48 states and all the other expenses, send them to another temporary holding facility at Guantanamo Bay.
4) They are given the choice to go through a gate and emigrate to Cuba (if Cuba will take them) or after some time (10 days?) they are scheduled to be transported to their country of origin. Yes, costly, but not as costly as is going on now. I suspect attempts to jump the US border will slow to a trickle once word gets out a free ticket to Gitmo is waiting.

Your choice. Personally, if they don't turn back after a warning shot, they are no longer innocent. If they refuse to come to this nation legally and lawfully, they are no longer innocent. It isn't whether or not they carry a weapon, but whether or not they respect the laws and the process.

Yep, lush like that whenever I personally saw the Rio Grande not all that many times for a few days decades ago.

Seriously, an M-1 A1 against unarmed civilians? Are you off your meds?

Seems that it would more humane for Biden to allow Trump's Wall to be finished.

I don't know whether you served or not, but I never would have put down unarmed men, women, and children no matter who gave the order to fire.

"Your ignorance seems to magnify itself as you become surer of yourself."

When you start off with ad hominem and then go right to straw man, it doesn't really impress this State-certified debate judge. I mean you didn't even state your paradigm. Sheesh ;)

"...has no resemblance to Greek gods."

You were the one who appealed to Aristotle, intimating some appeal to authority. I countered with Plato - Aristotle's mentor. (Neither was Socrates an atheist. The sin they executed him for was none other than asserting a monotheistic alternative to their polytheistic belief system.)

"If you refuse to inform yourself of the precepts of Objectivism..."

Hehe. You might want to check my profile.

I've read Piekoff and - like Rand - found them both to be about 80% agreeable. I think Rand would have done better to adopt agnosticism and leave the matter open-ended. I'm not an Objectivist zealot. Shrugs. (hehe. Get my little joke there?)

"Jordan Peterson described your pathology quite accurately"

I like Peterson (in general) and I listened to that conversation (among others). What Peterson actually emphasized was that [the Bible] was a method of storytelling which emphasized the underlying morals. Peterson was quick to point out that the basic Judeo-Christian doctrines are sound however he might question the historical accuracy of the records. Peterson avoided, however, the theist vs atheist debate in that dialogue.

"I'm sure you'll come up with a lengthy and worthless analysis of Peterson too."

So far, you haven't put up an argument which withstands even the briefest scrutiny. If all you've got is derision for me because we disagree, you inherently concede for lack of a cogent argument.

Let'em cry. I'm sick to my back teeth at all these Satanists whining.

But then they would site that Presidents are no longer allowed a 3rd term.

You've invented for yourself a definition of a god that is self-contradictory and thus fulfills your contrived conditions. It's the quintessential straw man argument.

Plato in The Republic denounced the notion of the pantheon of Greek gods due to their capricious nature, arguing that because of the power attributed to such that the arbitrary and seemingly-reckless actions attributed to the gods would have caused their own destruction and therefore didn't fit logically. What was interesting, however, was that instead of positing atheism or a lack of any supreme being, he instead argued in favor of monotheism.

"By definition, God is supernatural, of another dimension, exckusive of existence." (sic)

More accurately, God - since he is the author of the universe - is possessed of intelligence and power so extraordinary that it is beyond our comprehension at this time. Nothing can exist "outside" of existence by definition - if something exists it is part of existence and vice versa. Supernatural is a misleading word because its original meaning denotes merely something above the ordinary or beyond common understanding. Many have instead taken it to an unwarranted extreme and equated it to mean "impossible."

Up until little more than a century ago man had no idea about the atom. Bohr's theory was revolutionary. A century ago Einstein posited his theory of relativity and gave us tools to further measure the universe. We're still learning. To pronounce the knowledge of humanity complete enough to evict from possibility a higher power such as God is an act of sheer hubris.

"Prayer denies existence and causality associated with it."

Such a statement again is wholly dependent on constructing for yourself an invalid definition of god in the first place. There is a reason the Judeo-Christian ethos defines God as the Father of all mankind because it quantifies and identifies His relationship to us. Prayers can be wide and varied, but a prayer to ask for assistance beyond what one could perform himself/herself is an acknowledgement of personal limitation and an appeal for divine attention/intervention. If God acts to intervene in such a case, it would be at the behest of and incidentally attributed to that prayer, would it not? Cause = prayer -> effect = intervention. Seems pretty causal to me...

"To be kind, prayer is delusional."

Only if you know not to whom you pray.

"To say that you have no idea how I came up with my comment is borderline insane."

Your entire premise relies upon a straw man argument. If one starts with invalid assumptions one will come to invalid conclusions, don't you agree?

Re-elect President Trump (for the third time)

You mean kind of like this?

https://youtu.be/e4jH87HWwnk?feature=...

;)

Not sure how prayer "denies" the Law of Identity in the slightest. The Law of Identity simply says that something has to be equivalent to itself or "it is what it is." A = A.

Similarly, I have no idea where you get the idea that the existence of God would somehow violate the Law of Causality, which is simply that action => reaction.

I know that Rand took a fairly jaundiced view of organized religion such as the Roman Catholic Church or Russian Orthodox Church. I can understand that because the Russian Orthodox Church was a political organization probably more than a spiritual one and the same for the Roman Catholic Church. But I don't try to use the frailties of mankind as an excuse to eliminate possibilities.

I concur with the 1 mile wide dead zone idea. It could likely be implemented at a reasonable cost as well.

who were you replying to??

All +1 true. But one rule of a Bidenesqe engagement could very well be: "Don't you dare shoot anything into the oh so precious sovereignty of Mexico."
A reelected Trump could pull off that tank strategy, though.
As for sneaking up on a tank to get in range, vegetation can be lush along a desert riverbank such as the Rio Grande. Seen it. Spent a night beside that river
at the big primitive looking desert for a Big Bend park in Texas when it was a lot safer during 1972.

Not really. The problem is that our current administration is refusing to enforce the existing statutes and enabling these invaders (because they are not seeking legal immigration status) to come in.

Mayorkas was questioned point blank by Ted Cruz and others about the publication of an app which allowed these invaders to skip right through the immigration process entirely and then disappear into America while they supposedly "wait" for their hearing. Even before this massive invasion the immigration judges' dockets were so drawn out it would take 2-3 years before a given case came before them. And the pretended "immigrants" are long gone before then and never show up.

It's very easy to understand the "cause" and the cause is the Democrats. And it is NOT arbitrary use of government force to carry out the fundamental duty of protecting US citizens and their property from invasion but quite the opposite.

Personally, I would fully support the use of National Guard and other forces along the border. They would first warn people attempting to cross ANYWHERE except a designated station, then shoot them. It seems harsh but at this point that's going to be the ONLY thing that re-establishes the rule of law there because the Mexicans are aiding and abetting the illegal behavior. That makes the Mexican government a supporter of invasion of the United States and justifies military action.

I'd call it illegal, enabled invasion.

True, but they'd also have to get in range to use them. And a tank has much longer range than personnel-based anti-tank weapons. Even that .50 cal on the turret can "reach out and touch someone" at nearly a mile...

Of course that all depends on the rules of engagement as well... :S

I like your thinking but it would require more than a few tanks. How about we just declare a "Dead Zone" 1 mile wide at the boarder and patrol it with drones, and then kill anything that enters unauthorized.

First thing that popped into me dino's head is that the cartels could get anti-tank rocket launchers with a simple overseas phone call. Wouldn't be surprised if such a call stays in Mexico.
Some Muslim country or terrorist organization (one in the same?) would just love to see cartel criminals take out American tanks and say, "Don't look at us. We didn't do it."

The word "legal" is missing from your statements. Denial is not a river in Egypt. We are experiencing "illegal" immigration.