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New data show temperatures above 86F begin a precipitous decline of EV performance

Posted by $ AJAshinoff 9 months, 1 week ago to Culture
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No surprises here. I categorized this as culture because science truly has nothing to do with the push. The posts in response to the article show that there is still a few thinkers around.


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  • Posted by TheRealBill 9 months, 1 week ago
    Leftist solution turning out to be “fair weather friends” just like their proponents? Say it ain’t so! 😄
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 9 months, 1 week ago
    We've always know that batteries do not work well in extreme temps!
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 9 months, 1 week ago in reply to this comment.
    We were in the same situation. Found solar is good at day hours, but unless it sotres it, worthless if itis dark. We have heat pump with electric heat backup. We went whole house propane generator, and when it was -14 in Dec. and power went off, it came on like a trooper the whole six hours the subdivision was done. We just had some local farmers lease land for solar fields, maker went belly up, farmers got nothing!
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  • Posted by tutor-turtle 9 months, 1 week ago in reply to this comment.
    The rule for EV fires is to let them burn themselves out, hose down the surrounding area.
    EV batteries provide their own fuel and oxygen. Damn near impossible to put out.
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  • Posted by tutor-turtle 9 months, 1 week ago in reply to this comment.
    There is an aspect you have not covered: Tesla can shut your car down and keep it from being charged on a whim: i.e. you didn't go to the dealer for service. You bought it salvaged. You replaced the battery with a non-Tesla-approved battery. Used a non-Tesla charging station.
    As of this writing, they are the only company this militant about dealer-compliance, but the ability for all car companies to do this (even regular cars) is present. GM's On-Star is a prime example going back 30-years.
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  • Posted by tutor-turtle 9 months, 1 week ago
    The concept of an EV appeals to my inner Geek: fast, quite, low maintaince, high-techie gadgetry...
    The reality of EV limitations: range, cost, real world daily utility, (exploding batteries), battery life, lack of charging locations, resale value..
    Then you find out most of what goes into making an EV (unlike an IC car) is dependent on foreign sources.
    It costs more (energy, materials, labor) to make an EV than an IC car and more to dispose it (the hazardous materials: i.e. the batteries)
    Lastly, the electrical infrastructure of almost every country is woefully inadequate to support many more EV's. In California, they are already over-burdened. Most first world countries power grid is over 100 years old. With this insane push for complete reliance on renewables: wind/solar the Greenies are setting us up for disaster. It has be on purpose because no-one is that stupid.
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 9 months, 1 week ago
    I just watched a YouTuber cover the maintenance costs on an EV. Well, a couple of them.

    What's funny is that they guy did "his own" maintenance on many items, which significantly lowered the expense, so he came in lower than his gas vehicle, where I felt he did less personally.

    Another fella showed how the MAIN SCREEN fails often, and make the car undrivable. Also, the lane detection system... It's like $600 for the part, but it has to be properly aligned, or your car might BUMP INTO things while driving... And the dealership charges like $2k for this.

    His experience was that the "It's cheaper to maintain" is a big lie. Because high tech parts fail more often than MANY of the parts on a Gas powered vehicle.

    Consider me NOT CONVINCED!
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  • Posted by $ rainman0720 9 months, 1 week ago
    You're right, no surprises. But since when do logic and critical thinking ever enter into ANY decision made by a lib?
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  • Posted by $ blarman 9 months, 1 week ago
    There is also a lower limit where battery performance similarly tanks. And some of us live in places where not only does it get extremely hot, but extremely cold as well.
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  • Posted by GaryL 9 months, 1 week ago
    Geographically speaking, Solar, Wind and EV vehicles are not yet ready for prime time around this country. Here in the NY Catskills mountains there are scant few charging stations. Electricity costs to your home are outrageously expensive. Driving an EV car in -20 below zero is a no brainer and I seriously doubt driving through feet of snow and ice covered roads will be a wise decision. Very few of the "All Volunteer" fire companies around here even have the means to extinguish a Lithium Ion battery fire and we haven't even seen the environmental impact of disposing of these worn out batteries when their life expectancy expires. It is nothing short of a scam!
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  • Posted by Bryanth 9 months, 1 week ago
    I live in the northeast US and cold weather is also a big factor in battery charging. I have a plug-in hybrid 2022 Toyota RAV4. I mostly use it locally and charge it overnight and have a 12.3kw solar array. However, if I need to take a trip it has a roughly 450 mile range on gas. Best of both worlds for me.
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  • Posted by $ 9 months, 1 week ago in reply to this comment.
    I was thinking something mid-sized that I can use on my excursions and can double as a modest secondary backup for home.

    I'm considering this:
    BLUETTI Solar Generator EB70S with PV120 Solar Panel Included, 716Wh Portable Power Station w/ 4 110V/800W AC Outlets
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  • Posted by mhubb 9 months, 1 week ago in reply to this comment.
    better to get 2 smaller ones, so you have backup in case of failures

    or 3

    and no such thing as a "solar generator" as they are shown
    the "solar generator" hold the power, the solar panel converts the power, wires carry it to the "solar generator"

    i know you know this, written for others

    i've got 10 120watt panels, need 2 more and 9 Deep-Cycle Marine batteries for emergences
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  • Posted by $ 9 months, 1 week ago in reply to this comment.
    I've been considering a portable solar generator as for camping but large enough as a backup power source in case the lights go out. The research I've done makes spending what they are asking questionable.

    Intriguing is the new semi-conductors that have been created (can't recall their name) which apparently repel gravity.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 9 months, 1 week ago
    Anyone that knows something about batteries knows that high temps hurt EV performance, but no one in the Buydem admin knows about batteries. They do know a lot about looting.
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