Going Galt, the non-romantic version
Posted by DennisJeeves 2 years, 4 months ago to Going Galt
Most people when they talk about 'Going Galt' are generally talking about living in some secluded place on their own (except perhaps with immediate family members). They also often want to stop dealing with the mainstream entirely. This in my opinion is not always optimum, Ideally the Gulch should be able to replicate all the useful concepts that the mainstream has come up with: like a hospital, or jobs that pay well. Larger projects (whatever that might be) require more people who are philosophically aligned and intellectually wise to co-operate achieve that goal.
I'm putting crude efforts in that direction which are outlined here at https://quberoot.wordpress.com/ . If you are interested please contact me after reading what I have put in the link. One thing that I can say unflinchingly is that it will take a lot of effort in building working relationships - something which most admirers of Ayn Rand are incapable of comprehending.
Summary, if you don't want to read the all pages on the link:
1) Get together with like minded people (I have defined what like minded is in the link that I put).
2) Work on projects for mutual benefit.
3) Initial efforts will be co-operating online. It may or may/not involve physical relocation, depending on many factors.
4) A stress on people rather than projects. Without the 'right' people every project no matter how well laid out will be doomed.
5) I'm no John Galt, expect an ordinary middle class fellow, with some grand ambitions( that may never materialize). You will have to pull your own weight, you can ( and should) expect a reasonable amount of co-operation and efforts from me.
As you can see there is nothing novel about the concept (partly the theme of Galt's Gulch in Atlas Shrugged ) , but the big challenge appears that often relatively independent thinking people also come with reclusive and non-cooperative tendencies. This means that there is near complete lack of efforts in putting aside minor differences to co-operate with other like-minded people for mutual benefit. Independence of thought (which is gret) tends to foster loner (which is bad) like tendencies
I'm putting crude efforts in that direction which are outlined here at https://quberoot.wordpress.com/ . If you are interested please contact me after reading what I have put in the link. One thing that I can say unflinchingly is that it will take a lot of effort in building working relationships - something which most admirers of Ayn Rand are incapable of comprehending.
Summary, if you don't want to read the all pages on the link:
1) Get together with like minded people (I have defined what like minded is in the link that I put).
2) Work on projects for mutual benefit.
3) Initial efforts will be co-operating online. It may or may/not involve physical relocation, depending on many factors.
4) A stress on people rather than projects. Without the 'right' people every project no matter how well laid out will be doomed.
5) I'm no John Galt, expect an ordinary middle class fellow, with some grand ambitions( that may never materialize). You will have to pull your own weight, you can ( and should) expect a reasonable amount of co-operation and efforts from me.
As you can see there is nothing novel about the concept (partly the theme of Galt's Gulch in Atlas Shrugged ) , but the big challenge appears that often relatively independent thinking people also come with reclusive and non-cooperative tendencies. This means that there is near complete lack of efforts in putting aside minor differences to co-operate with other like-minded people for mutual benefit. Independence of thought (which is gret) tends to foster loner (which is bad) like tendencies
I will have to ask you more questions.
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2) The FSP is decentralized, but the Hoppeans (Kaufman and his friends) are the dominant faction when it comes to recruitment and optics. Many of us go to great lengths to dissuade so-called "left libertarians" and "modal libertarians" from moving to New Hampshire.
3) I've been Galt-maxxing since before I'd ever heard of Ayn Rand. I am very concerned with problems of industry and engineering, as are the bulk of Free Staters in my cohort (early 20s-30s). As with any group, the most vocal and visible people will be those with the most time on their hands, i.e. the least competent. I suggest taking the time to take a deeper dive into the FSP. If you haven't visited before, I highly recommend the NH Liberty Forum or the Porcupine Freedom Festival (2026 dates TBA). Alternatively, I can recommend you to some Signal chats with more serious Free Staters.
Missing aspects of FSP the top of my head:
1) Personal mentorship - in FSP you are on your own.Yes, you can potentially find friends or acquaintances but that leaving thing to complex and fortuitous social dynamics. In the group dynamics that I'm suggesting, you will have designated people - for life.
2) A stress on 'right' kind of people. For FSP the primary qualifying criteria is that you ought to be libertarian. In what I'm suggesting a lot more is required, for example you HAVE to work on projects and interact heavily with others.
3) FSP has hippie vibe to it - not that of undertaking serious projects, I would think that the crowd that it attracts probably won't think of 'curing' cancer a project that they would consider. Mine would. ( And just for the records - I like the hippies, just as one would like children, but their ability to be mature is in question)
Freebie, care to explain more?
>You need establish three things to have a project (assuming you're building something): scope, schedule and resources. If you're missing one of those you've just got a mess
Isn't that obvious? (Not claiming it's easy or that every one does it.). I'm focusing on people for whom those things are common knowledge.
I'm an admirer and spend much of my money-making time building working relationships. You mention "projects". Here's a freebie. You need establish three things to have a project (assuming you're building something): scope, schedule and resources. If you're missing one of those you've just got a mess.
Years ago somebody reached out to me (pretty sure it was via this forum) to discuss building a community in New Zealand. Anybody else remember that? Curious what happened. I was interested, actually...
Consortium of some 100 individuals with over 1000 acres amongst us. East central Wis.