Why Patriots Shouldn't Pledge Allegiance
Posted by freedomforall 11 months ago to Philosophy
Excerpt:
"A Government Loyalty Oath Written by a Socialist
Many who consider the pledge a cornerstone of conservative values will be surprised to learn it was written by a Christian Socialist named Francis Bellamy, who was run out of his pulpit at a Boston church for preaching against capitalism, and who called Jesus Christ a socialist.
His radical cousin, Edward Bellamy, wrote a popular novel, Looking Backward, which glowingly describes a future in which government controls the means of production and where men are conscripted into the country’s “industrial army” and compelled to work in roles assigned to them by central planners.
While working for The Youth’s Companion, a children’s magazine, Bellamy wrote the Pledge of Allegiance in 1892, timed to be introduced in patriotic celebrations accompanying the 400th anniversary of Columbus’s arrival.
According to a summary of Bellamy’s account of his writing of the pledge, he aimed for brevity, as well as “a rhythmic roll of sound so they would impress the children and have a lasting meaning when they became grown-up citizens.”
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Given his beliefs, Bellamy was well-suited for creating a loyalty oath that conditions Americans to subordinate themselves to a powerful central government. Make no mistake—in pledging allegiance “to the republic,” Americans are doing precisely that.
That’s consistent with Bellamy’s wish for state sovereignty and individual liberties to yield to a centralized national government, but it’s starkly at odds with the founding spirit of the country.
Central to that spirit are the notions that government should be a servant and not a master, and that all government should be viewed with deep, ongoing wariness— certainly not the reverence demanded by the Pledge of Allegiance.
Free people have no business pledging loyalty to any government. It’s government that has a duty of loyalty to the people, with no more essential demonstration of that loyalty than the protection of the rights of individuals."
"A Government Loyalty Oath Written by a Socialist
Many who consider the pledge a cornerstone of conservative values will be surprised to learn it was written by a Christian Socialist named Francis Bellamy, who was run out of his pulpit at a Boston church for preaching against capitalism, and who called Jesus Christ a socialist.
His radical cousin, Edward Bellamy, wrote a popular novel, Looking Backward, which glowingly describes a future in which government controls the means of production and where men are conscripted into the country’s “industrial army” and compelled to work in roles assigned to them by central planners.
While working for The Youth’s Companion, a children’s magazine, Bellamy wrote the Pledge of Allegiance in 1892, timed to be introduced in patriotic celebrations accompanying the 400th anniversary of Columbus’s arrival.
According to a summary of Bellamy’s account of his writing of the pledge, he aimed for brevity, as well as “a rhythmic roll of sound so they would impress the children and have a lasting meaning when they became grown-up citizens.”
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Given his beliefs, Bellamy was well-suited for creating a loyalty oath that conditions Americans to subordinate themselves to a powerful central government. Make no mistake—in pledging allegiance “to the republic,” Americans are doing precisely that.
That’s consistent with Bellamy’s wish for state sovereignty and individual liberties to yield to a centralized national government, but it’s starkly at odds with the founding spirit of the country.
Central to that spirit are the notions that government should be a servant and not a master, and that all government should be viewed with deep, ongoing wariness— certainly not the reverence demanded by the Pledge of Allegiance.
Free people have no business pledging loyalty to any government. It’s government that has a duty of loyalty to the people, with no more essential demonstration of that loyalty than the protection of the rights of individuals."
look how that has turned out.....
The Declaration of Independence explicitly expresses that sentiment:
“Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed—that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness.”
By reciting the Pledge of Allegiance and proclaiming the United States of America “indivisible,” Americans disclaim their human right of self-determination. They also surrender their ultimate means of holding government accountable: Every government should exist under perpetual threat of disintegration."
I didn't know where the pledge came from until I read the article and I now realize how it can be turned into a weapon of indoctrination for the wrong people in charge.
And the wrong people ARE in charge. Corrupt treasonous power hungry people.
That old saying that "even the devil can quote scripture" springs to mind.
Any utterance, law, regulation, institution or treaty is to be treated as null and void, post-1871 .... and, even prior, to be re-evaluated as questionable.
i see where you are coming from
i always took it as an Oath to the Constitution
When dealing with socialist , it’s important to note they are Prussian agents.
Indoctrination Prussian style ,may seem familiar.
“We are dealing with fascists here, the evolution of the Thule society into the Nazi Party adopted a completely authoritarian approach to rule. Decades prior to the Nazi regime, pedophile groomers running the German boy scouts indoctrinated young boys to integrate the “Sieg Heil” salute and the phrase “mein Fuhrer” into their daily routine. By the time Hitler rose to power, these former boy scouts were now grown men, some of whom had become powerful figures within German industry, judiciary, politics and military. They had never forgotten their days as boy scouts, nor had they forgotten the symbolism that had become deeply ingrained in their psyche.
When the Nazi party emerged during the Weimar-era, many of the men immediately recognized the symbolism from their boy scout days. The pedophiles running the boy scout expeditions had indoctrinated the boys, espousing the virtues of the rise of the Aryan master-race, often over a campfire. For them, the rise of the Aryan was inevitable. Watching Hitler and Ernst Rohm violently rise to power confirmed only one thing - the Aryan master-race was emerging in Germany, just as they had been told decades ago in the Wandervoegel.”
“The “Sieg Heil”, “mein Fuhrer”, swastika and SS lightning bolts were all symbols that were used back in the boy scout days. As boys, they were groomed to believe in the rise of an Ariosophic cult. When these symbols re-emerged with the Nazis, it was a call to arms. Many of these men rose to the occasion to fulfill the destiny of a new Aryan master-race. Many also understood that this cult was run by violent men who believed in the ancient Greek pederastic practice of “boy love”.
Does any of this sound familiar to todays indoctrination?
Ulrichs, Hirschfeld, the Thule society, along with the Nazis, were all deeply influenced by the kultur of Prussia. Whether it was their theories, their militancy, or their homosexuality, everything originated from the state of Prussia.
When the Nazis took control over Germany in 1934, they wasted no time in destroying all evidence of their criminal past. Their first raid was Hirschfeld’s Sex Institute, which held records of the gay victims of their sado-masochistic escapades during the 1920s and early 30s. Many of these victims had approached Dr. Hirschfeld to seek help. The first line of business for the Nazis was to confiscate all of Hirschfeld’s documents, revealing what they feared the most. From here, the Nazis rounded up all the gays who were potential witnesses to their child-sex crimes. These men were the first interns at the concentration camps. Finally, the Nazis recruited thousands of medical researchers to the camps where the prisoners were subjected to torture, dissection, and chemical experiments. From Will Zoll.
That many of the people who now live in this nation and many who hold the reins of government have set aside those principles in search of power in no way denigrates the principles at the heart of this great nation despite my belief that this nation will be torn apart because of its apostasy from those foundational beliefs.
I fly my flag proudly. Red for courage, white for purity, and blue for justice. Those ideals are axiomatic and don't exist because of people, but in spite of them.
My support for this nation isn't support for tyrants, but against them. Notice that the tyrants don't fly the American flag in truth, but in mockery.
Those whose values I personally disagree with, but formerly did not contend with because I used to have more of a libertarian conservative philosophy, are forcing their values down my throat. My reaction is, almost involuntary, to vomit. Almost everything I hear outside the Gulch is that A is not equal to A.
It is time for vocal opposition.
It is time to actively promote Galt's oath.
Bellamy's Pledge and his salute. There's a lot that can be written, and the Pledge occupies a heroic spot in our hearts.
God Bless America. I as an atheist cannot disagree with Rand's public pronouncement, "God Bless America!" at one of her Ford Hall Forum talks.
Barbara Fritchie. "Shoot if you must this old, gray head." https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/a-... ... Read the article. Winston Churchill knew and recited the entire poem for FDR!
Johnny Appleseed: John Chapman really existed. I used to live a mile from his birthplace, which is not far from Sterling, the town where Mary Sawyer lived.
Mary Sawyer. Famously had a little lamb.
That avoids the cognitive dissonance of the variants of, "Allah bless America."
I don't believe in deities, but if you wanted to "covert" me, talk about demigods called "The Founding Fathers."
I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America. To her founding fathers and their beliefs that the government shall serve We The People.
I stand United, empowered and free. I vow to use that freedom to ensure our government is under control, does not overstep it's boundaries, and is severely punished for violating ANY of our Bill of Rights!
We are One Nation, Under God, indivisible with integrity and the fabric of society woven by independent and free voices.
We do NOT Consent to Globalists. To Pedophiles, to Satanists. We do NOT consent to those that would destroy or enslave us. We do NOT consent to government nudge units nor our government getting in bed with corporations to work around the constitution.
We do not consent to Emergencies being reasons to remove ANY of our rights as free people.
We do not consent to the unequal application of our laws against its citizens.
And as our forefathers warned us... We will be always vigilant and prepared to replace our government with a fresher/cleaner version as we realize its rot may be systemic!
==> Open call to make it better...
But I like the idea of having a pledge.
Just not one that teaches us to whistle past the graveyard!
If any of them tells any one of us what to do, they are to be executed for treason.
I do not pledge my allegiance to any power or to any flag.
We are the sovereigns. We pledge to no one.
We've seen where that gets us: enslaved.
We don't have any royalty above the sovereign people.
Is that really necessary.?!
And under which national god? Am I required to believe in gods?
men, even acknowledging our faults, are the sovereigns and no man or creation of man is above us.
The federal government, as currently in practice, is an abomination to the American spirit of individual liberty and free markets.
Our system of government was not for the godless.
you pick your god...
But if you want to believe that you have achieved perfection, and have no ideal above you, that you strive for, despite probably knowing that you will fail to attain that level of perfection...
Then I would argue any society based on that is already doomed. Because it's the arrogance that comes along for the ride that creates the insufferable leaders.
I would ask you if your disdain for religion comes from you alone... Or was it one of the many gifts of your education here? (Because mine was CLEARLY given to me at school, and supported by our media, and continuous nudging and attacks by the same people with many agendas. Even though I thought I came to it on my own...)
Here’s something clear enough from a founding forefather, Thomas Jefferson.
“The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.”
Quite a contradiction of, “Our system of government was not for the godless.”
Over many dozens of millennia, humans, especially primitive ones, had invented thousands of one-true-gods and multi-god clusters to explain the phenomena of nature.
Why does the sun rise? In the long and short of it respectively, it’s because of Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, the Aztec Lord of the Dawn, and Ra of ancient Egypt.
Why do volcanoes spit out lava? It’s Pele forcing Kilauea to make more Hawaiian beachfront. In Italy, Vulcan makes Vesuvius belch from all the garlic. (Add starship reference here? Some other time.)
Why do wagon wheels turn backwards in old movies? It’s because of the Greek Gemini, Caster and Camber, the twin gods of Wheel Alignment. (You maybe were expecting Castor and Pollux?)
In the East, a polytheistic bunch offer Brahma the Creator, Vishnu the Preserver, and Shiva the Destroyer. For no extra charge, you also get the Remover of Obstacles, that cheery Ganesha with the elephant head.
In the West, a popular threesome somehow presents as monotheism, offering a Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, which sounded in a Beat Generation like Daddy-O, Laddy-O, and the Big Spook.
Strongly worded disdain for religion to follow.
If you've put that much thought into, you've answered my question, you have come to this conclusion on your own.
We are to remind everyone whose side we are on. Other countries are not ours. Other view points, while they may be valid, are not ours.
We draw the line here. We agree to those lines. And around those lines we unite.
This is very much like a Family Code of Honor.
It just applies to a bigger family.
Growing up, I believed in the Pledge. At our Tea Party Meetings, we still do the pledge. Because it unites us. Despite the fact that it has all been corrupted.
But to each their own. Unfortunately, that is also how/why Conservatives keep losing. We do NOT apply effective strategies, we do not draw dark lines, and make things clear. And we allow our enemies to paint us into a corner, and to label us.
I'll even swear an oath of honesty, on The Bible, even though I'm not a Christian.
Just the same, a patriot I'll remain.