What is “Government”?

Posted by freedomforall 1 year ago to Politics
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"Society is built upon such natural, organic and non-coercive relationships – which are built and maintained on the basis of mutual agreeability. Tensions may arise but they can never percolate to the degree they do under government, because people are free to not partake of relationships – whether personal or business – that do not suit them, with no other justification necessary for ending them than exactly that.

Government negates that – via the assertion that you have no right to not associate, made by people who – in society – would quickly find that few if any would wish to associate with them, as almost no one likes a busybody or a bully."
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imo, government is a tool for evil to gain power over honest people.
SOURCE URL: https://www.ericpetersautos.com/2023/03/26/what-is-government/


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  • Posted by Aeronca 1 year ago
    I have seen that for the most part, sociopathic people run for office. It's for the power, wealth, sex and of course the pull of telling others what to do. Who wants this? Liars, looters, losers.

    Competent people don't run for office because they don't have to.

    Politicians are worthless so all they can do is bark orders at others.
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  • Posted by mhubb 1 year ago
    government was to be the lesser of 2 evils
    established to protect Rights of Man given to us by God

    not create them
    not to become the parasite it is now
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  • Posted by $ blarman 1 year ago
    I will dissent. What do you have when you do not have government? You have no authority to appeal to for redress. You have anarchy. What you are really describing is a lack of self-rule: without self-government one can not have any other form which is not tyrannical in nature. The self-governed individual recognizes the rights of others and respects them. The self-governed individual knows that he/she has enough on his/her plate governing himself/herself to entertain the notion that he/she is capable of governing others - let alone dictating to them.

    America's real problem is not government, it is lack of self-government. When people are encouraged not to govern themselves according to the rules of a polite society, you will get a tyrannical government. Look at any Democrat and you will see a person who attempts to substitute control over others for control over themselves. And when you put in power someone who can not control himself/herself, you get a government of tyranny. One need look no further than George Washington to see a real example of self-control and self-government. He was the only man in history who declined massive authority because he knew he had all he needed in his simple farm.
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    • Posted by mhubb 1 year ago
      What do you have when you do not have government? You have no authority to appeal to for redress

      the Jan 6th political prisoners could not be reached for comment

      the problem is that those that swore Oaths to stop this kind of thing have so far sat on their hands watching sports
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      • Posted by $ blarman 1 year ago
        You hit it on the head when you use the word "political prisoners."

        I am not arguing that governments are perfect. Governments are tools and their ultimate use and control is determined by the people being governed and the leaders in that government. The original ideals which formed the "more perfect Union" which originated the United States of America included several unwritten ideals. Not only did the Declaration identify core rights such as Life, Liberty, and Property (original Declaration) but the unmentioned core principles of self-government, self-discipline, equality, opportunity, hard work, etc. These principles have been abandoned by a large portion of the electorate and pointedly eschewed by those who currently occupy power in our government. Why? Because those values conflict with their desires for power.

        Governments are a symptom and emblem of the people they serve. The rot goes much deeper than government.
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        • Posted by 1 year ago
          I agree except I would add that, imo, the government has purposely created the broader rot in the People in order to destroy the rule of (Constitutional) law that restricted the power of government.
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          • Posted by $ blarman 1 year ago
            Of course, and it goes directly back to people who refuse to govern themselves. They seek power over others despite the fact that they can't control themselves and so government becomes a proxy for their twisted internal struggle. The fact that things get corrupted and fester is the sad but ever-so-predictable outcome.

            Contrast this with the early days of our nation when self-control ruled the populace and as a result their elected representatives. This is not to say that government was not without its few bad apples but some Founder's observation about government and angels comes to mind... ;)
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            • Posted by 1 year ago
              Even some of the Founders were bad apples. (Hamilton, for example.)
              Fortunately the good apples created the Bill of Rights to slow down the corrupt.
              We, the People, are the ultimate control over government power, and we forgot to do our duty.
              Now it will take a lot more effort and probably a lot of dead and wounded.
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              • Posted by $ blarman 1 year ago
                To me, a bad apple is someone who knows that they are advocating to violate basic human principles. Unless they were the ones who insisted on the 3/5 compromise (slavery-apologists), I have a hard time labeling any of the Founders as "bad apples." That includes Hamilton. Yes, he favored a strong Federal government and a central bank, but his actions to shore up the finances of a fledgling nation were critically important. It should not be overlooked that Hamilton himself changed some of his policies after seeing them in action.

                It's easy for us to criticize people who lived >200 years ago and have no applicable context. Personally, I believe that to be unwise as it licenses similar judgement in our day by current bad actors.
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