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Police MURDER Innocent Man Who Does Not Consent To Tyranny

Posted by freedomforall 2 years, 1 month ago to Government
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Excerpt:
"An interesting thing about government – about government workers – is that they can legally do things that would be criminal under the law if we were to do them.

This begs the question about the morality of what government does – unless one takes the position that legality and morality are synonymous. In which case it is hard to understand why the leaders of National Socialist Germany – always important spell out the socialism that was at the core of that murderous regime – were prosecuted after World War II, given that the crimes they were charged with weren’t criminal, as a matter of (German National Socialist) law.

Government morality seems to boil down to this: If you do not follow its laws, government workers will – ultimately – kill you.

A young man named Chase Allen, who was 25-years-old, is dead because of a chain of events that began when a government worker decided to enforce a law requiring his car (all cars) to be “registered” with the government. Chase did not believe he had a moral obligation to “register” his car with the government and so he didn’t, apparently.

You may think the government has the right to enforce such laws, though it is difficult to understand how “government” – which isn’t a living being – can have any rights at all. It certainly has power, of course – but then, so did the National Socialists in Germany."
Original report:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...

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Government is out of control.
Agents of government are not being trained to honor individual rights guaranteed by the US constitution.
Instead they are provided with military weapons and trained to shoot first and ask questions later.


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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Right. I am all about limiting the special rights and bad behaviors of police. They are just people doing a job. They are NOT special humans. They should have not rights or powers you and I don't. However, this example does not generate any sympathy in me for the "victim".
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    At 01:14/01:47 you can see something that appears to be part of a brown leather holster.
    Reminds me of the pocket holster for my concealed carry pocket pistol.
    I wouldn't suddenly move my hand toward any pocket. Even an empty one.
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  • Posted by bobsprinkle 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    So....someone kills your mother/father and you know who it was. Would you request the police simply send them a ticket????
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  • Posted by 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Do you see a gun in that video? I don't.
    Why does the video cut away at that particular moment? Where is the rest of the supposed video showing a gun?
    Show the entire video or be assumed to be lying because you are an armed government thug.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 2 years, 1 month ago
    What isn't included in this is that his mother had the same problem with the local authorities and openly defied them several times by committing traffic misdemeanors and then refusing to pay them. She cited the same perverse logic: that she was a "sovereign" citizen. This poor kid is dead because his mother was an anarchist.

    I really can't take the side of the individual in this one. He acted brazenly stupid according to all accounts. There is a time and place to contest the legality of law enforcement actions and it ISN'T by trying to pull a gun on officers during a traffic stop.
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  • Posted by JakeOrilley 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    As was drilled into me at an early age - "when you are stopped by the police do not ever try to adjudicate the issue at the side of the road. You will always lose". In this case it would have been more effectual to go to court - if he was serious about his belief about the overreach of government. And reaching for a holster, regardless of where the weapon was - again - a poor choice.
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  • Posted by cjferraris 2 years, 1 month ago
    His actions indicate that he would not comply with the officers regarding this matter. Him being a sovereign citizen, indicates that "you're not the boss of me" mentality. Whoever instilled this into him is to blame for this.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    +1 because the dino agrees, but you don't ever even try to pull a gun on police during a traffic stop.
    Not unless you want to die.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 2 years, 1 month ago
    I'm not following this.

    He was being an idiot. Then (sure looked to me like) he pulled a gun out of a holster. I have trouble getting excited about this one, compared to innumerable others where the police shoot people under far more benign circumstances.

    "You can't require me to register my vehicle"? Come on.
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  • Posted by Aeronca 2 years, 1 month ago
    He did nothing wrong really, didn't deserve to die, he was executed because presence of a weapon plus resistance plus lack of paperwork gives officers the legal, not moral incentive to get away with murder.

    I wouldn't have behaved the same. I would bend to the will of the government to stay alive. I'm a Civic Wimp in that regard. In a traffic stop situation. I think first of survival and not rights.

    If we're dead we can't stand up for rights.

    I have to say, despite the fact that he was murdered, he also won the Darwin Award. It's not only Black people who win the Darwin Award, White people do too.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 2 years, 1 month ago
    When you are stopped by the police, you don't reach for a gun.
    Why am I thinking Chase Allen wanted to "commit suicide by police."
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  • Posted by richrobinson 2 years, 1 month ago
    That was crazy and never should have happened. They had his information. Send a fine in the mail. Absolutely no reason for the escalation. The Chief is full of shit.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 2 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    If what they did is actually correct these officers need therapy. They are too over wrought to be carrying a gun and wearing a badge.
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  • Posted by mhubb 2 years, 1 month ago
    driving is not a right
    by design
    for more control of We the People

    murder?
    likely
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