Significant questions about Tyre Nichols arrest circumstances remain. Cops' bodycam clips lifted out of context?
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All the bodycam clips and other footage I've seen fail to show events leading up to Nichols being pulled out of his car. Was there a highspeed car chase prior to that, and was Nichols shooting at the officers any time before the chase ensued? Was a weapon displayed or found at the scene, or thrown out of a window during a chase? Reminds me entirely of the Chauvin case where no one picked up on Floyd gulping down a handful of drugs while the initially arresting cops approached the vehicle he was in, and was his ingestion of drugs communicated to Chauvin at any time during the confrontation? If not, Chauvin should have been convicted of no more than manslaughter.
Some cops have a tough job. My experience with many (albeit suburban ones) is that at least 50% of them are just bullies. Some a law-abiding bullies, but they are bullies, and by the way, the profession with the highest percentage of domestic violence.
Not sure how to get back to the old Irish flatfoots, who were friends of the neighborhood, but "Scorpion Patrol" as certainly NOT it.
BTW, I am totally ok with a cop shooting the guy who shot his partner... actually anyone who shoots someone's friend. I was never a police officer, but been in a pile of fights as a youth. Can't remotely imagine any 150 lb guy not being a flesh pretzel with two of me on him. Five? Well, we'll see how this turns out.
In any case it is great to see a well-spoken, well-reasoned, retired policeman here in the Gulch! Speak up more!
Thanks for taking the time to post this and good luck with your move and shrug!
he should have had enough sense, however, to not sit on a guy asking for help, that was cuffed
Police NEED to understand that the optics of what they are doing can be really, really bad.
the beating that Nichols took was 100% unacceptable, he was cuffed and under control
what happened to Floyd was his own fault, drugs
what happened to Nichols was caused by those 5 "officers"
his mistake was to not understand everyone has a camera now
we do need the entire story
We should totally support real police, but require real standards. Half of them are bullies and tax collectors now. Our town has some real good ones. We are in rural suburbia, but have had two nasty murders in the last ten years. The cops here, will help you push a car if broken down. They will give you a jump start. They are at least very accommodating to residents for speeding tickets (not non residents, which is not my favorite behavior). Even when we are drinking at a public field at 9 pm after soccer, they cut us slack. And they handled those murders like pros. Tough ones.
A guy seeking drugs killed his grandparents, mother and the grandparents care taker after they refused to drive him to NH to get drugs. The guy took all his cloths off, and wandered through the woods to my soccer buddies house, where he confessed, covered in blood. He held the guy there, and the police came and took care. Of course the State (tax collectors) Police came and took the limelight.
Future MSM "journalists" in training...
Only then can we see if the use of force was "excessive" or justified.
Having lived on "the other side of the tracks" I have seen some tough SoB's who would not go quietly. They had to be beaten into submission before the cops could get them in the paddy wagon. Like it or lump it, that's life.