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Single payer health care

Posted by $ TomB666 2 years, 3 months ago to Politics
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We really don't want this but libtards in congress are trying to push us into it.


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  • Posted by term2 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I remember years ago blue X paid 80% and you had to fork over the 20% and you knew in advance how much that was. Now you find out when you sign in for the procedure what theup front payment will be. I dont like the current system.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There is no end to the nonsense. All driven by third party payment. If you pay, they all go away.
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  • Posted by term2 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You have pre-approvals, which take time and money to do, and then appeals from those decisions which take time and money to work through. No wonder things are slow. And the administrative costs are not counted.
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  • Posted by term2 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    not really sure WHY this is, but it does seem plausible. Maybe part of the reason is that insufficient data travels up the bureaucratic chain to make good decisions for everyone under the control of that bureaucrat
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  • Posted by term2 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I will have to wait until they are served. Long lines and wait times will come
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  • Posted by term2 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    the problem is that they lied about the vaccine to suit their purposes. If they said in the beginning you could still get covid, but with this shot it wont be as bad, at least we would get the truth and make a decision. lies, lies, hidden agendas= thats all we get from government.
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  • Posted by term2 2 years, 3 months ago
    I already have single payer, medicare. The cow has already left the barn
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  • Posted by tutor-turtle 2 years, 3 months ago
    When you hear Billy-Bob Gates (of Georgia Guidestone fame), Chucky Schwab, WEF, WHO, UNICEF all talking about global depopulation, you had better take them seriously.
    They Really Do Want You Dead.
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  • Posted by $ splumb 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Hence the MAID program in Canada.
    For now, it's just being offered as an option.
    Just wait until Trudeau and company remove the choice and decide for themselves who's worth living and dying.

    I live close to the Canadian border, so I can pick up CBC Television. The Fifth Estate did a documentary on MAID last week, and it was terrifying.

    First it was just offered to the elderly who were already dying.
    Then they changed it to offer it to the terminally ill.
    Then they changed it to offer it to the people with illnesses that would be manageable, if not for the inevitable long waits of socialized medicine.
    Then they changed it to offer it to the homeless.
    Now they're changing it again, and will offer it to people with any sort of mental illness.

    Sounds like eugenics to me.
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 2 years, 3 months ago
    We've heard from the socialists for decades: Health care is a human right. A society shall be judged as to how it administers to its sick and elderly. Love is love.

    The elephant in the room regarding single-payer / socialized health care is this: Single Payer is loved by collectivists for one reason: they will not have to change their sickly parents' shitty diapers. The State will handle it. Pure horse shit.
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes -- problems do Not scale linearly. This is why the smaller Scandinavian countries (under 10M population) can actually fake their way through so-called socialized health care.
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  • Posted by bobsprinkle 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Forget the Americans already here. The recent and ongoing INVASION from our southern border will wreck out healthcare system.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In actuality, it means that even with a bureaucracy 5x bigger you would have 50x more issues and disaster. Problems don't scale linearly in large systems, they scale exponentially. That's one of the reasons why massive control by a monolithic government can never work. It isn't just improbable - even if these elitists would acknowledge this - it is literally impossible. Distributed controls at the local level are the only way to effectively deal with these issues.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The third-party-payer problem in healthcare is very real and destroys the necessary market dynamics which keep a business connected to customer needs.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 2 years, 3 months ago
    Of course the elitists want this. How better to do away with dissenters and the unproductive than to simply "delay" necessary care until the damage is done. It's blatant and intentional - and evil.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 2 years, 3 months ago
    The problem with health care isn't that there is too much greed. The problem is that there are none of the conventional capitalistic means of controlling the outcome of greed.

    There are virtually NO consumer decisions involved in expenditures. None! Give the money to the people, and have the people pay the providers... or keep excess $ / pay the additional $. The problem will be solved in 10 minutes.
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  • Posted by $ rainman0720 2 years, 3 months ago
    Here's one of the scariest arguments against anything resembling the NHS here in America. There are five times as many people here than in Britain (332M vs 67M), which means that (at least in theory) the bureaucracy to manage those numbers would need to be five times as large as the failing NHS.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 2 years, 3 months ago
    Oh no. Oh no no no! This is handing the government a loaded gun! You think transplants are expensive now? Wait until the Government can decide who lives or dies! Our officials are so stupid they advertise "The vax will keep you from getting Covid! B S. There hasn't been a vaccine science has produced that prevents you from getting COVID. Make the disease more manageable but doesn't prevent it! I've worked in the health care field 65 years! That miracle hasn';t happened. N
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  • Posted by mccannon01 2 years, 3 months ago
    Covid politicized health care as never before and that's just a taste of what's to come when government is FULLY in charge. That fool governor of NY is still saying unjabbed people have no business in the health care field. It's going to get worse.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 2 years, 3 months ago
    He who pays the bills makes the rules. Too many forget that truism.
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    Posted by mhubb 2 years, 3 months ago
    no sane person wants or should trust this
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