what if the ESG concerns are grounded in religious beliefs?

Posted by $ blarman 2 months, 2 weeks ago to Philosophy
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It's an interesting article by an author attempting to defend ESG citing the Hobby Lobby case. Key argument:

"The thrust of the criticism is that for-profit, commercial corporations should base their decisions solely on conventional business concerns — that is, interests that further the purpose of making money for the enterprise. Decisions grounded in environmental values or the betterment of society or programs designed to bring marginalized groups into the company and create a workplace environment where they can thrive are problematic distractions at best. To ESG critics, these are costly, misguided distortions of the profit maximizing free enterprise system."

Conclusion:

"Without a clear answer to that question, contemporary critics of ESG are vulnerable to the challenge that they accept religiously based ESG, but reject its secular counterpart — not because they think company decisions must focus exclusively on profits, but because certain religious beliefs comport with their political ideology and secular values do not."

Thoughts? Does the application here actually apply?
SOURCE URL: https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/3780778-religious-woke-capitalism-the-problem-with-conservative-arguments-against-esg/


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  • Posted by $ Dobrien 1 month, 4 weeks ago
    From Nasdaq.
    Across the investment management space, the focus around Environment, Social and Governance (ESG) practices has both shifted and heightened notably in recent years. A once niche industry, ESG adoption by asset managers has evolved into an all-encompassing transformation with ESG considerations working their way into almost every operational facet of a firm.
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  • Posted by CircuitGuy 2 months, 2 weeks ago
    The article seems to assume there is some basis for condemning ESG and that it's a quandary when when we encounter an ESG issue that we care about, religion in this example.

    I see no reason whatsoever that businesses, regardless of whether they're structured as corporations, should not reflect their owners' values.
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    • Posted by $ 2 months, 2 weeks ago
      The entire problem with the author's assertion, however, is that he tries to paint ESG as something other than a religion in and of itself! The entire ESG movement comes directly from a distinct elitist view about the world: that it is over-populated and should be controlled by an elite cabal.

      He also glosses over the fact that much of ESG involves the coercion of other parties. If the corporations in question were Hobby Lobby or Dick's Sporting Goods or Chic-Fil-A or a multitude of others, that is one thing: their patrons can choose to continue their patronage or not. When the "corporations" include government-controlled banks, however, we cross over a significant dividing line.
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      • Posted by CircuitGuy 2 months ago
        "The entire ESG movement comes directly from a distinct elitist view about the world: that it is over-populated and should be controlled by an elite cabal."
        If "ESG" = "the world is over-populated and should be controlled by an elite cabal", companies that pursue that won't do well because almost no one on earth thinks that. I was taking it to mean companies trying to operate within values that presumably their shareholders would support. The examples from the article are the environment, supporting equality for all people, and supporting Christian values. Companies can support those without supporting the absurd elite cabal stuff.
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        • Posted by $ 2 months ago
          With all due respect, one can NOT support ESG without supporting the "elite cabal stuff." Why? Because part of ESG is adhering to a framework of global rule where the elitists set the standards against which everyone else is measured without their approval. ESG's implementation is necessarily by force, which makes it very different from a business running itself.

          The reason I posted this was to point out the insidious and disingenuous attempts by these elitists to pass off their ideology as just another religion or ideology which won't hurt anyone or infringe upon their liberties when the truth is that it only exists to infringe.
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          • Posted by CircuitGuy 1 month, 4 weeks ago
            "one can NOT support ESG without supporting the "elite cabal stuff."
            Is that because the a) the word ESG means by definition an elite cabal trying to rule the world, b) any large business whose owners try to make the business support their values inevitably turns into an elite cabal trying to rule the world, or c) something else?
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            • Posted by $ 1 month, 3 weeks ago
              Do you even know what ESG is? The acronym stands for Environmental, Social and Governance. It is an elitist ideology about business where considerations other than the profit motive are of primary importance. Yes, it is run by an cabal of ultra-rich elitists. Their goal is world domination in the George Soros-style of destroying the productivity and economy of every nation on earth so they can install a digital currency which you can only use to purchase goods and services they approve of. And they have co-opted the banking system - including most of the major world banks - in order to push this agenda. They don't care about "companies doing well" because their goal is to bankrupt most of them anyway!

              The point is that ESG IS an elitist mindset which doesn't permit any other ideology - unlike most world religions like Christianity which don't directly interfere in the marketplace.
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