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“This is the hill we die on”

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  • Posted by Aeronca 1 year, 4 months ago
    The Enemy Within. It used to be without. Walls won't stop it anymore. They have been corrupting the minds of youth for three generations. It took a pandemic and a lockdown for parents to notice what their kids were being taught in schools. While we were sleeping, generations of kids were brainwashed by liberal feminist teachers. People woke up to the woke.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IicBP...
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    • Posted by diessos 1 year, 4 months ago
      But the YOUTH vote just cost use the Senate and possibly the House. They want free stuff. Free college, free abortions up to the time of birth, no fossil fuels, and a guaranteed base income.
      Hitler rise to power because the majority could not oganize against him. By the time they did it was too late. I fear it is too late for us already.
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      • Posted by mhubb 1 year, 4 months ago
        no
        cheating cost us
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        • Posted by $ Markus_Katabri 1 year, 4 months ago
          Yes cheating cost us. But, the brainwashed coming up behind it is longer lasting. That’s why I say the cheating doesn’t really matter. The cheating is a stop gap measure. They will quash it just about the time the GOP figures out how to use it because they won’t need it anymore. Anybody can stuff ballot boxes. 2024 is the last year the GOP has a prayer of winning. And both sides will have to out fraud one another. After that Gen Z will emerge from its gestational phase and vote to enslave itself and the rest of us. By the end of this decade we will have fallen to Franklin’s prophecy. “A Republic. If you can keep it.” The only way that changes is with a lot of unspeakable acts. Which is why I say if the whole thing up gets blown up and makes everybody miserable anyway, why not just Go Galt on a large scale first?
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          • Posted by 1 year, 4 months ago
            We have been enslaved since 1913, the next phase is our death. IMO the only chance we have is if Devolution occurred and the last three elections were sting operations. Bust this treasonous group of scumbags and Declass it all. Time for the Trump card . Tune in tomorrow for Trumps statement at 9pm est from Mar a largo.
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            • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 year, 4 months ago
              End the FED. Go Trump.
              Get the US out of the UN, get the UN out of the US
              O.T. The fight for the speaker's seat is getting really festive. I agree with the silent majority, Ryan is not the right man for the chair.
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  • Posted by Ben_C 1 year, 4 months ago
    Immaculate conception was made legal by LBJ's war on poverty. The more babies to more ADC money. Young men proved their masculinity by fathering a child. There were generations of women that fell into this abyss. One of the many pitfalls of socialism.
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  • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 year, 4 months ago
    We are on the precipice. But do we have the collective will to take our republic back? Is it already too late? It's being stolen right under our noses. Regardless of your feelings about Trump, he won 2020 by overwhelming numbers. The fact we lacked the backbone to right that wrong, back when it mattered most, was likely the final nail in our coffin.
    Do really think we can do anything after our cowardice retreat from that immorality?
    The rest of the world is licking their chops about dividing the spoils of post-America. Make no mistake about it, the the world is watching America circle the drain. Some watch in horror, others see opportunity.
    If there was one glimmer of hope left; kick the central bank out of this country, force financial responsibility upon our congress critters by printing our own currency backed by something more than just fantasy. While we're at it, kick out the UN, the CFR, dissolve the FBI and CIA: for they are nothing more in theory and practice than an American version of Geheime Staatspolizei.
    Personally, I think our goose is cooked.
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  • Posted by 1 year, 4 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You make statements like a fetus is a parasite.
    That tells me all in need to know about you.
    Here are the facts:
    Biologically defined, parasitism is a “form of symbiosis in which one organism (called a parasite) benefits at the expense of another organism usually of different species (called a host). This host-parasite association may eventuate to the injury of the host.”

    In order to understand the relationship between mother and fetus, we need to look at the various types of symbiosis. There are three kinds of symbiosis: commensalism, mutualism and parasitism. In commensalism, only one species benefits while the other is neither harmed nor benefited. In mutualism, both partners benefit. In parasitism, one organism benefits while the other suffers harm.

    Calling the preborn parasites reveals a lack of scientific understanding. There are many things about this relationship which show it is not parasitic. Mutualism would be the form of symbiosis that exists between a mother and her preborn child.

    First, the fetus is the same type of organism as the mother. Parasites are different organisms which latch on to another species, causing it harm.

    Second, parasites are not where they belong, but the preborn child is precisely where it is supposed to be. The natural changes that take place in the woman’s body to make room for this new little human do not damage her body. Although there may be challenges in being pregnant, they are in no way legitimately comparable to the damage and harm a parasite does to another organism.

    Third, women are able to receive health benefits from the natural, temporary changes that take place in her body.

    Dr. Frazale Rana, Ph.D, states the following: “Instead of being passive tissue that absorbs available nutrients from the mother, the placenta dynamically distributes nutrients between mother and fetus, optimally ensuring the health of both mother and developing baby… [by] receiv[ing] metabolic signals from both the mother and fetus and respond[ing] to this input by regulating the nutrient amounts made available to the fetus.”
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    • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 year, 4 months ago
      When I here people argue for infanticide, I argue back: "Why stop at birth, You should be able to kill them any time you want. (hand-to-hand, no guns or knives and absolutely no subcontracting the job out) When they can run faster then you can, then your window is up. Let's face, you really want to kill them when they are pesky teenagers, but it's why too late for that now. They're really agile and way too quick." /sac/
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    • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 4 months ago
      Oh good god. I’ll get to this in the morning. Some of us still produce for a living.
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      • Posted by 1 year, 4 months ago
        Of course that’s why you have been commenting
        For the last Nine + hours . No need to steal your own time when you can steal it from your employer apparently.
        The Statement speaks for itself. As you said earlier to me how you would wait with bated breath and I responded with in 10 mins. Don’t bother.
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        • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 4 months ago
          Ok, back. I'm sure my company will forgive my "stealing" a little time. The $250M Korean contract just awarded, and $1B shipyard contract about to be awarded based on my "producing" will cover such incidentals.

          Very clearly the fetus meets all definitions of a parasite. It can not survive on its own, and it is fed from nutrients from the host. The host, on the other hand can easily survive without the fetus. It may not be politically correct, but it is the actual fact.

          The idea that the host in this case benefits physically is the most ridiculous grasping at straws. The reverse is most clearly true. I play soccer with a small young woman who has very three boys. Her stomach is ruined from bearing children. She is probably fine with with the trade, being a great mother, but it sure wasn't "beneficial" to her body.

          The entire comment above is simply a fabrication from cognitive dissonance.
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  • Posted by $ jdg 1 year, 4 months ago
    There are not enough of "us" to win a civil war. That is why Galt retreated into a gulch and hid.

    We know it was fraud, and how the fraud was conducted. At least some of the cheated candidates are going to sue. The open questions are whether enough of them will, and whether the courts will treat them fairly.

    If the answer to either is "no," then find a hole and crawl in. Because we are now a banana republic, and can only pray for another Pinochet to lead us out of tyranny.
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    • Posted by $ Markus_Katabri 1 year, 4 months ago
      jdg—- this guy “gets” it.
      We are a banana republic. Sans the tasty bananas. Voting was the easy way out. Now we get to do it....the hard way. Famine is generally a great way to start a diet plan.
      In history whenever power shifts from one empire to another you have war.
      Might makes right.
      Always has.
      Always will.
      I could go into specifics but one need only open a history book to recognize the pattern. I cannot tell you EXACTLY how it will all go down. It’s not important anyway. Just know that it will and plan accordingly. We will be in a full blown world war by the end of the decade. Bank on it. And also bank on the United States as we have known it will not be coming out on the “winning” side this time. Statistically, historically, fundamentally that’s an impossibility.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 1 year, 4 months ago
    I’ve been on that hill since the first day of Covid mass hysteria. Incrementalism is the globalists game and it was obvious from the start.
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    • Posted by 1 year, 4 months ago
      Yup, I’ve been on it with you.
      The Gobalists game is a Nazi World Order with a Technocracy to be more precise, incrementalism is how they intended to implement it.
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      • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 year, 4 months ago
        Have you read Jim Marrs "The Forth Reich"?
        I read it in less than two days. Couldn't put it down.
        All fact-based, he names names, lots of photos of relevant people, places and things, follows the trail from the early 30's right up to today. I was blown away. "We defeated the German Army, the Nazis won" -Jim Marrs
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        • Posted by 1 year, 4 months ago
          I have said the same thing that Marrs stated . I have not read it but my own research brought me to that conclusion as well. Look up the Scherff name change. Operation Paperclip, The Kissmyassinger Frankfurt professor implants in 61’
          Watch Annie Sullivans https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j... Documentary on this topic.
          This shit show we are in all evolved from Kharzarians. The Kharzarian name stealers ,they continue that habit still today. All of that became Frederick the Great’s Prussia. It is actually Prussian infiltration. Marxism ,Hegel, the Bolsheviks , Hitler, Rothschilds Warburgs Loebs Rockefeller’s all Prussian and all spy agencies came from Fredrick the Great as well
          Will Zolls substack work is invaluable. https://prussiagate.substack.com/
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          • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 year, 4 months ago
            My reading list is growing out of control.
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            • Posted by 1 year, 4 months ago
              You are a very bright patriot as all your comments attest to. To kill the enemy we have to know who the puppet masters are how they operate and e are at war with them . 5th Generation warfare . Including information warfare , they want to censor and hide the truth and digital soldiers spread the truth. This is toxic to them. Meme warfare is real and I have posted 1000’s of them . Many share them and that’s the weapon. Prussiagate is among the most important information I have ever learned. Give it a sample and you will see what I mean. Who set this Satanic system up and who is directing our own demise.
              The World Economic Forum? Want names of the culprits ?
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 1 year, 4 months ago
    The women will save America. The men are all gone...
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    • Posted by freedomforall 1 year, 4 months ago
      Many women have ruined America and have no interest whatsoever in freedom.
      Obviously there are exceptions, but when push comes to shove, women will take false security
      and chains instead of standing up for individual liberty. They are genetically tuned to seek safety
      with the biggest and strongest protector they can find even if the protector is a genocidal maniac.
      Look at them. They are volunteering to have their noses pierced for the chains of slavery because
      some perverted moron prostitute in the movies does so.
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      • Posted by 1 year, 4 months ago
        Evil does not distinguish itself from women or men.
        Your statement that “women will take false security and chains instead of standing up for liberty” may be true for some , but it is also true for some men.
        A better way of saying it is ignorant people will take false security and chains instead of standing up for Liberty. As far as “women will save America and the men are all gone” is a collection of words with no basis or value. Sorry.
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      • Posted by Aeronca 1 year, 4 months ago
        The birth control pill was an atom bomb that detonated in society, and we are still trying to stand back up, staggering around trying to figure out what happened. It was most likely a man's idea, to turn women into sex objects, sex toys that could be used irresponsibly. Likewise, it allowed women to behave as sex objects, and be irresponsible. It's debatable if the Pill set women free, or made them even more enslaved than they claim they used to be.

        I despise the nose rings it's spreading like a disease. Although the rings and ear holes do provide a good control handle with minimal effort. How stupid. You could control someone with a piece of 20 pound fishing line.
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        • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 year, 4 months ago
          Man, you could write a 1,000 page novel on that topic. One could map a very close correlation (but not quite causation) with the introduction of the pill and the collapse of societal mores. None-the-less, society was completely and irrevocably altered. In totality, it wasn't for the good. Even the so-called "good parts" forced inflation to adjust prices to accommodate more dollars chasing after fewer goods. Making two-income families work twice as hard to live as a one-income family did 10 years earlier. And now we did it without a mom at home.
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          • Posted by mccannon01 1 year, 4 months ago
            I recall a book back in the '80s (I think it was "To Harass Our People" by George Hansen), where he doesn't mention the pill but said inflation and other reasons were basically a ploy to herd American families into the waiting arms of the IRS. I figure that's a book the gov would like to burn or bury. Things have gotten a lot worse since then.
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          • Posted by 1 year, 4 months ago
            I posted this comment to dino’s post yesterday ….
            The Key is young people being indoctrinated.
            This is a long term plan to destroy the family. First you inflate the currency and cause both parents to work. Check. The TV and satanic music industry destroys morals. check Then You destroy manufacturing and the middle class. Check You introduce and glorify life destroying drugs. Check . You allow easy abortions and promote divorce with cash incentives.Check You push sexual ideas to children nonstop with the Satanic deviant LGBTQ+.Check
            Only show interracial couples on advertisements.
            Check. We are at the stage where the can indoctrinate a kid and tell him/her the parents are idiots and hide the grooming of a child to be a tranny from the parents, FuQ you Gavin Newsome. I wonder if they get paid a referral commission when they have convinced a minor to have a “doctor” mutilate themself.
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            • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 year, 4 months ago
              I feel like I am living a permanent Twilight Zone.
              But then I step back and ask: "What's the end game?" Or taking a crime solving tact "Who benefits?, Who had opportunity?" The Elite, depopulation in advance of the Great Reset, and our Neo-Communist Government ever hungry for more power and control over the masses.
              I stopped watching TV seven years ago. (Dad called it the Idiot Box back in 1960's) I don't believe I've missed a thing.
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              • Posted by 1 year, 4 months ago
                I Quit the paper ,magazines (Nat Geo, Smithsonian, the rest) TV , MSM, Hollywood in 2011. The reason was the glorification of Obama, the climate change hoax and the frustration of seeing everything heading the wrong direction. In other words I rejected their cognitive dissonance.
                I have never been more informed and disgusted.
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                • Posted by mccannon01 1 year, 4 months ago
                  Same here and you can add "Scientific American", "Popular Mechanics", and "Popular Science" to your list. All went woke and started sneaking Neo Communist zingers into EVERY article. I read to get informed, not irritated by their propaganda. My hometown rag went left a long time ago and I dropped my subscription in the early '90s.
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        • Posted by mhubb 1 year, 4 months ago
          gee
          i wonder if The Pill and all its variations have anything to do with the increase in children with issues
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          • Posted by Aeronca 1 year, 4 months ago
            Possibly. If a woman gets pregnant from improper use of the product, or wildly fluctuating content uniformity of the tablets, a baby could be exposed to higher levels of estrogen. That could adversely affect the baby or embryo in the early months.
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            • Posted by mhubb 1 year, 4 months ago
              i do not know how all the different versions work
              some may use other "systems" than estrogen

              at some point, the health of our kids should be an issue for us all, right now it seems it isn't
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              • Posted by Aeronca 1 year, 4 months ago
                When politicians spend the wealth of our grandchildren, and people support that behavior, of course we aren't concerned with our children's future, or their health. Who makes decisions looking a hundred years down the road? 10 years? (Congress.) 1 year? 1 week?
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      • Posted by nanovation 1 year, 4 months ago
        You are correct. There's a reason why the Founding Fathers didn't give women the vote. Because they have a biological imperative to be taken care of, with the least amount of responsibility possible. They were always going to "marry" the government and vote for as much free stuff, that they don't pay for (theft / socialism / communism), as possible.

        America was finished the day we started giving everyone the vote (versus just the people that pay into the system) and the final nail in the coffin was giving women the right to vote.

        Even if a politician comes along and gets rid of all the welfare, women will just vote him out and vote in someone that will give them all the welfare back. And women are the majority of voters.

        It's over. The America we once knew is done. Now we just have to get a safe distance away from this speeding train that's going to hit the wall at full speed and live long enough to see the system implode, in which women will lose their rights and the natural balance will be returned.

        How long will this take? We probably only have a few years left. Prepare accordingly.
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          Posted by $ katrinam41 1 year, 4 months ago
          I am a woman. I do not vote bread and circuses. I take care of myself, raised two kids who take care of themselves. If you are going to throw generalities around like confetti, check your premises before you spew it all over everyone.
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          • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 year, 4 months ago
            Wish I could give you 10 thumbs up.
            My Lady is one tough, smart and strong person in every sense of the word. Over 45 years, more times than I can count, I've had my compass reset by my better half. Lady Dee would run congress far more responsibly than the monkeys running that zoo now. And oh yes, hurt feelings would abound.
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          • Posted by nanovation 1 year, 4 months ago
            I understand that what I said hurt your feelings and you do not feel it applies to you. There are always exceptions to the rule, so here's a #NotAll for you. Nonetheless, biology does not care how either of us feel about the subject. It is what it is. https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign...
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            • Posted by $ katrinam41 1 year, 4 months ago
              Hurt feelings don't count here. Your apology just added to the problem. I am not an exception to a "rule". I feel sorry for you that you have never met a normal woman. Welfare mothers have a big problem keeping things together because their husbands/boyfriends/slackers have no sense of responsibilities.toward the children they fathered. The women I know survive because of who they are, not the gender they were born with.
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              • Posted by GaryL 1 year, 4 months ago
                I agree with you Katrinam. I also agree with the premise that many woman vote wrongly. My wife is well cared for by me as I am well cared for by her. She, like you, votes with her head rather than with some false sense of protection. I never tell her how to vote but I know she votes very similarly to the way I vote and she has no use for what the MSM or any others want her to believe. As was said, far too many woman just don't see the full picture and you and my lady are not the norm.
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              • Posted by Aeronca 1 year, 4 months ago
                These women chose to have children, as having children is a choice. If it isn't a choice then it's rape. If a woman is aware than men can be irresponsible and run away, then risking having children is a bad choice. It's a choice. Even with contraception, it is known to be only 99% effective. It is a choice. Women have a right to choose. Women are not victims, they make choices. The exception to this is if a woman is raped. That is not a choice. It is a choice to risk having a baby, or choosing to have one with a "husband/boyfriend/slacker with no sense of responsibility." It is disgusting that men behave that way. But choices are made.
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    • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 4 months ago
      Agree, women are a main reason the Republicans don't have the Senate. They are standing up for freedom, in this unusual case, by voting for Democrats.
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      • Posted by mhubb 1 year, 4 months ago
        no
        cheating is why

        voting for freedom?
        freedom for what? to murder an innocent unborn child?
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        • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 4 months ago
          Cheating may likely have happened, again. However, it was not the only reason. Polls document this as a measurable issue.
          No, the freedom to remove of some number of foreign parasitical cells within one's own body, not unlike cancer cells.

          I have a shirt that says: "My freedoms don't end where your fears begin." It applies equally to this religious issue. "People's freedoms do not end where other religions begins".

          You may overwhelmingly desire abortion to be made illegal everywhere. I disagree, but didn't get my with with Clarence. However, if you support the behavior of government, you need to OWN the consequences. A majority of women disagree with you, and will vote against candidates potentially supporting these bans. OWN it.
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          • Posted by mhubb 1 year, 4 months ago
            those cells are call an Unborn Child
            an innocent Unborn Child that has dene NOTHING to be murdered for

            to say otherwise is a delusional lie
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            • Posted by Aeronca 1 year, 4 months ago
              I agree that life is continuous. The parent's bodies are living, their gametes are living. The sperm and the egg are alive. The fertilized egg is alive. The blastula, embryo, fetus, baby. All are continuous life. There is never a dead condition, life is one continuous uninterrupted chain ever since the beginning of life.

              I also believe it is generally wrong to interfere with this. I do believe there are some instances where it is absolutely wrong to force a woman to have the baby. (I knew someone who at 6 months had a sonogram of her baby with half a brain and half a heart. It was destined to die. I can't see the use in forcing her to carry it for 3 months more just to put it in an incubator and watch it die.)

              Nevertheless, politically, it's a losing issue. What Hill do we want to Die on? The abortion hill? Isn't there so much more at stake? Crime, inflation, energy, corruption...I say let them have their damned abortions. It's a hill we shouldn't die on. A Captain is about to march his platoon into a meat grinder. He has to ask himself, Is this the Hill I want to Die on today? Is this worth it?

              Do we want to lose elections for ever based on abortion? If the conservative movement dies on the hill over abortion, then it loses all influence whatsoever. Then a runaway liberal imbalance exists, which will quickly turn to a dystopian nightmare. Conservatives might want to flex a bit in order to retain some power as opposed to having zero power.

              This argument says nothing about the basic morality (immorality) of the abortion issue.
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              • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 4 months ago
                Precisely!! Thank god Republicans will get the House. They should have won it by 30 seats.

                If others want to die on this hill, they just ran away from any real fight to freedom.
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            • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 4 months ago
              OWN it! You support a reason the Democrats maintained control of the Senate. You and Clarence own it.

              Then completely separately, you explain how one or two cells are a human being.
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              • Posted by mccannon01 1 year, 4 months ago
                IMHO, human beings advance through various phases of their life cycles including gestation, infant, toddler, teen, young adult, and geriatric. The gestation phase begins with a single cell at conception. Science, no religion required. Redefining a human in its gestation phase as a "cancer" or somehow declaring it as a rights violator of the mother is absurd.

                Now comes the question, are we civilized? If we are, what makes us civilized? IMHO, a very large component of what makes us civilized is respect and value each of us give to our fellow human beings, regardless of what phase of the life cycle your fellow human is in. When we lose that respect and value we become less civilized or not civilized at all.

                Edit add: Those who share my opinion may have cost the more conservative senate, but we are now edging closer to a very uncivilized condition. It's going to get worse.
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              • Posted by 1 year, 4 months ago
                What a crock of shit. The only reason the Demoncraps control the senate is because of wide spread election fraud. The Demons fuQing cheated, period.
                Your emotional rant about thoughtless women and the need to interrupt the natural course of life is boring and predictable.
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                • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 4 months ago
                  Happy it is predictable. Clearly it affected the results, both House and Senate. Very clearly. Doesn't matter what your opinion on the subject is, it affected the result. So, "own it"

                  As Aero said, which hill do you want to die on?
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                  • Posted by 1 year, 4 months ago
                    Just because you list Dr Suess type stories from sources that lie every time they print a story.Like US News or the worthless Gallup polls your false conclusion is garbage.
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                    • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 4 months ago
                      You are welcome to send yours. Waiting with baited breath and a tin foil hat.
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                      • Posted by 1 year, 4 months ago
                        Some fools who read the main stream lying media claim this is a Chinese psyop.

                        https://qalerts.app/

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                        Nov 07, 2022 7:20:19 PM EST
                        Q !!Hs1Jq13jV6 ID: 000000 No. 17728969
                        Why do some elections take more than a day to count?
                        Can cheating be done after the polls are closed?
                        Who controls the pollbooks?
                        Who controls the databases?
                        Who controls the elections?
                        Why are extra ballots printed?
                        If someone doesn't vote, can bad actors hijack their vote?
                        How?
                        Why did the National Guard activate cybersecurity teams?
                        Who gave the order to 'activate' the cybersecurity teams?
                        Why?
                        To protect the elections?
                        To claim the midterms are 'safe'?
                        Safe from what?
                        Setting the stage?
                        Watch carefully.
                        White hats have secured many systems, but problems still remain.
                        You have all the tools you need.
                        Vote.
                        Q
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              • Posted by mhubb 1 year, 4 months ago
                i pity you
                and the dems again cheated
                most do not support the murder of an innocent child
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                • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 4 months ago
                  You are right, but it is not.

                  Two cells, or two thousand cells are not a human life. My dog has WAY more to live for than two cells.

                  A dog has 530 million brain cells. A fetus doesn't have a brain until ~week 7, and it doesn't function in any meaningful way until the last month. The brain IS consciousness. Life is meaningless without a brain. Any other argument is just religious nonsense, specifically excluded from Government power over people.

                  Pity me if you chose. It means about as much as a Muslim pitying me for eating pork, or a pacifist, gun control advocate pitying me for having and enjoying firearms. It certainly doesn't validate or support any of the related arguments.
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                  • Posted by mccannon01 1 year, 4 months ago
                    IMHO, a dog's gestation period of its life cycle begins with a single cell at conception, same as a humans. Its specialized cell counts in the puppy or dog phases are irrelevant.
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                    • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 4 months ago
                      As we have discussed, I disagree, but respect your opinion on this subject. It is not your perspective fueling the other attacks on my assertions.
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                      • Posted by mccannon01 1 year, 4 months ago
                        Yes, we agree to disagree. There was a time when I was fully in agreement with your position, Thor, so I do respect what you have to say. I changed my position some time ago.
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                        • Posted by 1 year, 4 months ago
                          When Planned Parenthood is selling baby parts, (which is illegal I might add) and pushing for late term abortion up to birth , because they make more money the more developed the human body part is. It is immoral. The staff is heavily incentivized to counsel for aborting. Not to mention laundering our tax dollars to the elected with campaign donations. This practice of selling eyeballs brains lungs or skin was not happening when Ayn Rand used her reasoning. She had ethics and this is unethical. If this stance is religious to some all I can say is I follow a “Chrmistian” belief system for the most part, Ten Commandments and such, but no participation in any church.oh and an early Merry Christmas.
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                          • Posted by mccannon01 1 year, 4 months ago
                            PP = Evil. IMHO, Objectivism respects life and Rand's mistake on this matter is a misunderstanding of the very beginning of the human life cycle. Pegging it at birth or anywhere along the gestation period is an error, therefore Rand was in error on this topic.

                            Merry Christmas in return.
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                          • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 year, 4 months ago
                            Merry Christmas to you too Dobrien
                            One only has to research PP's founder and philosopher Margret Sanger and her Eugenics ideology. It is a deeply disturbing read. Eugenics was exceedingly popular concept among the elite of the late 19th/early 20th century. Then when Hitler glommed onto the bandwagon it had to go underground where it metastasized into what we now recognize as the Great Reset (et. el.). Same goals: depopulation of the undesirables. Then it comes as no surprise at all that the vast majority of state-sponsored infanticide are minority babies.
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                            • Posted by 1 year, 4 months ago
                              Bill Gates father was a long term promoter of eugenics. Gates served on the boards of numerous organizations in the Pacific Northwest, including the Greater Seattle Chamber of Commerce, King County United Way and Planned Parenthood.
                              Microturd boy has continued the family tradition.
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                              • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 year, 4 months ago
                                I've noticed his "experimental vaccine" hobbies that he promotes in third world countries have got him kicked out of India and Africa for all the injuries (sterilization) and deaths that were of a direct result of his experiments. He basically lied to the people he was jabbing about was was in the shot. This is only were he was caught. I wonder where else he's been "experimenting". You can bet your bottom dollar it will be reveled another nation of color. You know "the undesirables".
                                I have very troubling thought that those "novel viruses" Ebola and HIV, were no freak of nature. Given one-third of Africa is infected. About 300 million people. And Ebola is almost exclusively limited to Africa.
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                                • Posted by 1 year, 4 months ago
                                  Gates is the second largest donor to the WHO behind China..
                                  TheWHO folks that have an affinity for Shiva. @nd Tedros who committed genocide on a rival tribe in Ethiopia. Tedros is not an MD but he knows how to implement the worst medical practices. In Ethiopia as Health minister he denied a cholera outbreak was that and blocked treatments. Hmmm sound familiar.
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                          • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 4 months ago
                            All abortions are either murder or irrelevant.

                            Either no abortions can be allowed in any condition (e.g. rape, except perhaps the life of the mother), or any abortion should be allowed. There is no "None, but well, ok for rape". That is complete logical fail.

                            If they are allowed, who cares what people do with the parts, and why would anyone care? It is no different than the heart valve I have from a 28 yr old organ donor.

                            This is an simply an emotional response to a legal reality some people object to.

                            Ayn would not see this any other way.
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          • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 year, 4 months ago
            Then explain the forced jab?
            Where did my freedoms go?
            The Uni-Party is Democrat Lite.
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            • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 4 months ago
              What are you talking about? I never argued in favor of required vaccination. No idea what the "Uni-Party" is.

              I am explaining that: The Roe-vs-Wade SCOTUS decision (supported vociferously by many here to allow abortion limits) eroded a massive edge the Republican's had in the mid-terms. Women actively voted against Republicans in state and federal elections fueled by perceived risk to this freedom.

              What are you commenting to?
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              • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 year, 4 months ago
                Medical freedom:
                My body, my choice? Ring any bells Quasimoto?
                It's the same thing The jab was the Fed mandating medicine. The Fed sticking their nose into medical topics best dealt with at the state level. All this is 50-year-old historical debate.
                R v Wade reversal threw it back to the states where it belonged all along, it was never a Federal right, and as always the case: Federal over-reach. "Roe is bad law and will likely be overturned" -RG Ginsburg, 1973
                You don't know what the uniparty is? Really? You really think there is a Left and a Right in this country? Really? With all evidence to the contrary?
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                • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 4 months ago
                  Yes, medical freedom. The same. I would throw out abortion bans on religious freedom basis. Should never have been a vax requirement, especially this "vax", which it isn't.

                  Never heard of the Uni-Party, but makes sense. The swamp.
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                  • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 year, 4 months ago
                    There is no ban on abortion. None. Decisions on abortions were remanded to the States. Just as everything not specifically addressed in the Constitution is supposed to be handled. (but seldom is)
                    RG Ginsberg predicted this would happen back in 1973.
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                    • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 4 months ago
                      Not really true. TX law is essentially a ban:

                      https://www.sll.texas.gov/spotlight/2...

                      Doesn't matter to me which part of government takes away rights. Down want any part to take them away, even city.
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                      • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 year, 4 months ago
                        So move to a state that embraces infanticide.
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                        • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 4 months ago
                          No problem there. The problem is the other 75% of freedoms!

                          I guess we either get social freedoms or fiscal freedoms. That is why I became a libertarian. Now it is social freedoms, that are also forced upon the normal, or fiscal freedoms.

                          I do NOT like compromise, that is why I support a divided Republican-Democrat President-Congress. Otherwise we become the religious right, or the nut job left. Both want my money to pay for their power base.

                          Based on comments here, Ayn’s Gulch is a religious cult, with a fiscal liberty bent.
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                          • Posted by tutor-turtle 1 year, 4 months ago
                            The entire Republican-Democrat meme is a religious cult.
                            It will prove the demise of the Federal Republic experiment.
                            Given a choice of cults, I'm with Ayn. It least it isn't suicidal like our present monkey-house of a government. I can count on one hand the members of Congress who aren't insane
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                            • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 4 months ago
                              Now that we agree on. 99.9% of this is not about abortion, yet the Rep-idiots use it as a becon to their cause.

                              Draw the religious in to our banner. They lack any peripheral vision and we can have our way with them.

                              Just like:
                              Draw the altruistic, defenders of the weak (with other people’s chest only) in. They will support our banner, without question. Giving us all the power

                              Same-same. We are idiots for supporting either having the steering wheel.
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                      • Posted by mccannon01 1 year, 4 months ago
                        "Doesn't matter to me which part of government takes away rights. [Don't] want any part to take them away, even city." Can't argue with that, Thor. Therefore, killing a human even in the gestation phase of life, which presumably is what abortion does, deprives that human of all rights. Forever. Again, IMHO, redefining pregnancy, which is a natural occurrence for the females of our species, as a rights violation is an absurdity. Saying a pregnant female has a "right" to arbitrarily kill the human she is temporarily carrying is an absurdity if human life in our civilization holds any value at all. Reality is always reality, even if we don't like it, and reality can be very uncomfortable or even nasty from time to time. The Texas law doesn't violate any "rights", but rather protects the rights of human beings early in their life cycle.
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                        • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 4 months ago
                          Yes, I understand your perspective on this issue.

                          However, given this position, no abortion, for any reason can be allowed, except perhaps when it is a choice between the life of a mother and the fetus.

                          I would point out that there are many cases, Terri Schiavo for example, where things (no longer people) are killed (no idea why removing a feeding tube is ok, but injecting them with an overdose of barbiturates is not). My father in law is another recent example, where his Catholic wife pulled the plug after very similar circumstances (but only a week).

                          In these cases, we let fully developed people go, mainly for cost and convenience. Yet, 1, 2 or 8 cells hold so much more value, and the need to intercede with government force. All because of "potential"? Very metaphysical.
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                          • Posted by mccannon01 1 year, 4 months ago
                            "My father in law is another recent example..." My condolences, especially since my family had a similar situation with my father in law. Reality can serve up a bitter dish and watching a loved one die is certainly bitter. Each situation is unique regardless of many similarities. We can spend hours arguing one case or another, but as an overview IMHO, arbitrarily ending a new human life naturally coming into the world is not the same as allowing an existing life to naturally pass from it after careful consideration.
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      • Posted by freedomforall 1 year, 4 months ago
        I think they are missing the point completely and that is a result of brainwashing by the deep State and their genetic disposition toward security (false in this case) over liberty.
        Since the state they live in now has the option to pass laws affecting the freedom (that the federal government just gave back to them), they rationally should be acting to make the state government protect their freedom. Instead they feel they need to be protected by Federal Jackbooted Thugs who will take away all freedom from everyone. They are short-sighted and irrational - just what the Deep State wants.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 1 year, 4 months ago
    We have met the enemy, and he is us. Domestic idiots who fall for Soros running the border and also Biden policy via Government for Impact. We ave a Fascist with deep pockets and everyone is doing his bidding. Even the Ukraine, Soros funded Zelinskyy. Goal, destroy US and Russia, but the US from within. US has a major brain drain, and all we teach is sex and transgenderism. The oligarchs are rising. Not capitalism, but controlled capitalism, no competition, you buy what they want to selll.
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