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Why do Hanks hold on to Lillians?

Posted by $ rockymountainpirate 10 years, 7 months ago to Philosophy
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Why do Hanks hold onto Lillians?

I have searched my entire life for my Hank, and have yet to find him. Well, at least not available. I do see Hanks around and they seem to always have a Lillian hanging on. Why? I see this as a contradiction. How can someone live a happy, fulfilling life with a contradiction like this? I will not compromise or sacrifice myself, and don't don't want anyone to compromise or sacrifice for me.

Lillian has no respect for Hank, his work or his business as demonstrated when he gives her a bracelet made from the 1st heat of his new metal, mockingly saying: “You mean,”...”it's fully as valuable as a piece of railroad rails?” She jingled the bracelet, making it sparkle under the light. “Henry it's perfectly wonderful! What originality! I shall be the sensation of New York, wearing jewelry made of the same stuff as bridge girders, truck motors, kitchen stoves, typewriters, and – what was it you were saying about it the other day, darling? - soup kettles?”

Lillian is not particularly interested in Hanks money, of course until she has none, but she is very interested in her position and image. Hank has no other value to her. She uses him as a pawn to gain position and pull as demonstrated when attending James Taggart's wedding.

Then there are family members.
Hank's mother: “The intention's plain selfishness, if you ask me,” said Reardens mother. “another man would bring a diamond bracelet, if he want to give his wife a present, because it's her pleasure he'd think of not his own. But Henry thinks that just because he's made a new kind of tin, why, it's got to be more precious than diamonds to everybody, just because it's he that's made it. That's the way he's been since he was five years old – the most conceited brat you ever saw – and I knew he'd grow up to be the most selfish creature on God's earth.”
Philip: “By the way, Henry,” Philip added, “do you mind if I ask you to have Miss Ives give me the money in cash?” …...”You see, Friends of Global Progress are a very progressive group and they have always maintained that you represent the blackest element of social retrogression in the country, so it would embarrass us, you know, to have your name on our list of contributors, because somebody might accuse us of being in the pay of Hank Rearden.”


Here is AR on Contradiction (From The Virtue of Selfishness): The Law of Identity (A is A) is a rational man’s paramount consideration in the process of determining his interests. He knows that the contradictory is the impossible, that a contradiction cannot be achieved in reality and that the attempt to achieve it can lead only to disaster and destruction. Therefore, he does not permit himself to hold contradictory values, to pursue contradictory goals, or to imagine that the pursuit of a contradiction can ever be to his interest.

Does your significant other respect and value you and your philosophy of life? If not, why are you still there?


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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    he was both the mule and the dinner. what did Lillian offer Hank? sex? that was satisfying. she did not only not support him-she undermined him. there's the rub
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  • Posted by Robbie53024 10 years, 7 months ago
    There are many facets to humans, not all of which are rooted in rationality. There are those with low self esteem or poor self perception that need the affirmation of others.

    Remember that AS, and the characters that AR crafted, she did so as plot devices. Would a man like HR truly make a union with the like of Lillian? Not as they are by the time captured in the book, but that is 10 yrs after their initial union. Both were different people at the beginning of that union.

    Why is it that a couple married for 20 or 25 yrs divorce? People change over time. Some change in ways that are no longer acceptable to their mate - as is the case with Hank and Lillian. One could just as rightly argued that Hank was married more to his work than to Lillian, and thus, had abandoned her long before she drove him away. A relationship requires both parties to work to maintain it.
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  • Posted by khalling 10 years, 7 months ago in reply to this comment.
    yea. he objectified Lillian. and did what was expected of him. and got nothing for it-actually lost time and talent and love
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  • Posted by $ MikeMarotta 10 years, 7 months ago
    You marry the whole person. Hank Rearden was attracted to Lillian's icy aloofness. Nothing could touch her. She was above it all. He did not realize what that detachment meant. Dagny,of course, was fully in and of the world. That was why she could not abandon it. Lillian could because she was divorced from reality. Rearden had to figure it out for himself and it was not until he found out that Lillian was the instrument revealing (a) his affair with Dagny and therefore (b) his loss of the rights to Rearden Metal that he put all the pieces together. Even at their anniversary party in "The Non-Commercial" he just wanted to see her happy.


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    Posted by Snoogoo 10 years, 7 months ago
    I like your post, it is so true and AR was 100% right. That excerpt pretty much sums it up. For anyone who is still on the fence about their Lilian - I would take your advice to heart and take action. From personal experience it is just impossible to be happy with someone who does not respect and value you. Life is short, escape while you still can. Living a life of contradiction will drive you crazy and eventually destroy everything good about you, especially if it's close to home.
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