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  • Posted by kddr22 1 year, 9 months ago
    As usual AR always has the words that describes something correctly
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 1 year, 9 months ago
      She caused me to think of The Big Guy Biden Crime Family and the Piglosi's getting rich off all the insider trading they have the "letter D-pull" to get away with.
      Yes, me dino failed to think of the Clinton Crime Foundation at the get-go. As the last Japanese emperor said with a grateful smile, "So solly!"
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  • Posted by $ pixelate 1 year, 9 months ago
    As a Free Roaming Happy Bachelor, I found myself recklessly smiling at the meme of the poor guy being saddled with undue problems.
    Ayn Rand's predictions are coming to pass while we witness the open play book of so many conspiracy theories.
    NPR is still calling the Jan 6th trespassing and property damage bit an insurrection -- no surprise, except that few are bothering to listen in and fewer still are buying the nonsense.
    Thanks for the mentally satisfying collection Dob.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 1 year, 9 months ago
    Society is doomed here in America. I agree with Rand there.
    "Look?" That's me!
    Cognitive dissonance in the White House spokesperson is a constant.
    Great set!
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 9 months ago
    Love the Diversity and Ayn's quote!

    It is unfortunate, but the diesel-engine EV charger is pure BS. These are the kinds of things that undermine all the correct things we poke fun at.
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    • Posted by 1 year, 9 months ago
      I won’t fact check these memes as you may have seen, I say, have at it. I hardly think this meme undermines anything about the insanity of replacing the entire fleet with electric vehicles.
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      • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 9 months ago
        Not trying to demean the whole as a consequence of one part, but pointing out that others will.

        The insanity is forcing EVs on people, not freely choosing EVs. I would freely choose one for my next vehicle, and defend my sanity and right to do so. I would defend your choice to own an ICE as well.
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        • Posted by 1 year, 9 months ago
          +1. Insanity is also believing they are environmentally favorable when considering the mining for battery materials. As well as the discarded used batteries.
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    • Posted by CaptainKirk 1 year, 9 months ago
      Agreed. I am sure it is wasteful, by comparison
      But it's NOT that wasteful. Besides.
      Looking at the size of the box. Where do they put the 120 Gallons so it can run for a while?
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      • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 9 months ago
        We used to make diesel generators for the Army. That thing is not a 350kW diesel generator. More like 60kW.

        I doubt it is wasteful. Battery charging is about 95% efficient charge/discharge. The EV drivetrain is also about 95% efficient (motor and the variable frequency drive).

        A diesel-generator is about 30% efficient. An gasoline engine (in a car, operating at varying load) less than 20% efficient, highway a little over 20% in some cases). 0.300.950.95 = 0.27 > 0.2.

        This is just made up BS. A 350kW diesel generator, operating a full load, might consume the level of fuel described, but that is not the conditions for the recharge. This is Redneck math, and complete nonsense.

        If you want to bitch about EVs, complain about subsidies, incentives, range (if you really need it, which most do not), or price. Acceleration, efficiency and maintenance are fundamentally better, period. Anyone asserting otherwise is lying or engaging in cognitive dissonance.
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        • Posted by CaptainKirk 1 year, 9 months ago
          Well, I have issues with the batteries, and the need for rare earth elements.

          Long term. We will have self-driving cars. Mostly electric. Rental Fleets. Imagine if they were self-driving.

          It's pretty obvious. If they operate in Swarm Mode like many small drones can. Accidents will be significantly reduced to the point of their only being the AI software people providing the insurance! Local Repair shops will go under (already getting hard to find).

          But frankly... I am more shocked the Burning Gasoline is THAT inefficient.
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          • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 9 months ago
            I agree, and when they are self-driving, they will be a service, not an ownership model (not my idea, but it will happen). Ones that need charging, will just go out of the pool and charge themselves.

            The rare earth materials are mainly in the permanent magnet motors. We can mine them in the US and Australia, but we don't due to cost. In addition, alternatives are being worked VERY VIGOROUSLY.
            One to watch is Iron-Nitride magnets.
            https://nironmagnetics.com/
            https://www.ibridgenetwork.org/#!/pro...
            These are cheap in materials, but hard to make, and have the highest theoretical energy product of present magnets. The problem is that the way they are made, only small particles can be made, and the magnets must be "bonded". With the rule of mixtures, this causes a weak large magnet.

            The battery material and recycling issue is largely noise. They can be recycled readily, and already are. I believe this is another chaff shot by people who are irritated by being forced toward EVs and/or the haughty nature of Prius owners.
            https://rxmechanic.com/ev-battery-rec...
            https://www.ev-battery-recycling.com/


            Regarding engine efficiency, thermodynamic engines are limited by the theoretical maximum, Carnot efficiency. To get high efficiency, high temperatures and high compression ratios are needed. The best practical engine efficiencies I know of are in the 60% range, for huge low-speed (90 RPM), direct drive diesel engines used in ships and large combined cycle gas-steam turbines. These can get to 60-65% efficiency, and do NOT scale down.

            The average utility efficiency is 46%.

            You can see why turbocharged engines are so much more powerful (and efficient) from the below:

            https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg...

            http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ojpG_uEzOog...
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        • Posted by VetteGuy 1 year, 9 months ago
          Thanks for providing the details, Thoritsu! I had my doubts about that one, but I did find it amusing.

          Range and cost are the primary issues for me. I don't have the parking space or the budget to own a separate car that I can't take on trips. My son-in-law bought a Tesla, and he seems willing to overlook the range issue. But every time I talk to him about it, I'm glad I don't own one!
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          • Posted by VetteGuy 1 year, 9 months ago
            For instance, I just got back from an 11-day, 4300 mile road trip. Large sections of the trip were away from the interstate. That trip would not have been practical (and perhaps not even possible) in an electric.
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          • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 9 months ago
            I can't stand crowded parking. We have five cars (partly because I am an idiot car guy, and like them). My next car is likely electric. I haven't driven over 50 miles in 5 years, and I have other cars if we need to.
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        • Posted by 1 year, 9 months ago
          “Range if you need it , which most do not.” If you choose to nit pick the BS of electric cars helping the ecology. Please provide evidence that most don’t need range. I think that is a ridiculous statement based on your own commuting and not others needs.
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          • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 9 months ago
            EVs use one half the energy per mile as conventional cars. I can explain this in detail if you need, but think you should take my expertise in this area on faith at this point.

            I “agree” CO2 is not a disaster. However, one must recognize 1) gasoline is a limited resource and 2) funding terrorism by buying oil and gas is self-defeating freedom (especially at present market prices).

            Range anxiety is just that. I do not feel like defending metrics on range needs, at least tonight. Individual examples are not the means to draw a conclusion. If you need longer range all the time (I doubt it), get a regular car. If you need it infrequently, rent or borrow one when you need it. Buying a full size pickup to commute and for the one time you need to move a bed, is foolish. Borrowing or a trailer works much better. Same with an EV.

            No idea why we are fighting about this. The meme is a lie. Let’s not lie. Let’s force the idiots to deal with the truth.
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            • Posted by 1 year, 9 months ago
              Have 3 to 5 million Electric vehicles exit an evacuation city and see what happens 150-275 miles from say Miami or Houston or New Orleans.
              Half energy per mile doesn’t take into consideration of a power grids inability to produce the power to recharge millions of cars. California at a fraction of the target for EV’s is already warning not to recharge as the power grid has rolling back outs.
              You won’t convince me that we are running out of oil
              Or that we need to fund terrorists. The Deep State funds Terrorists. That’s why our energy industry is crippled intentionally by the frauds occupying the WH.
              Really, buying a full size PU ……
              Btw ,don’t read my FuQing memes hardly anyone does any way, as I have repeatedly stated “not Fake checked, have at it” but don’t lecture me for my selections. Put your own up.
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              • Posted by CaptainKirk 1 year, 9 months ago
                Both of you...
                First, Dobrien... Love you. THANK YOU for the memes, etc.

                Second, points on the distance.

                But, I really did appreciate the details I got from Thoritsu. Honestly, I learn something EVERY TIME we communicate. That's POWERFUL.

                Thor knows you posted it because it's FUNNY.
                But let him clarify.

                We are ON THE SAME SIDE here. Lets take ALL CRITICISM as Constructive Criticism, PLEASE.

                I am happy you posted it. I am happy Thor corrected it "factually"... We all learned. Be happy!
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              • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 9 months ago
                Come on. Pointing out errors is not a slight to you. It is of value to our community, taking away potential vulnerabilities.

                Obviously we will run out of oil, because it is not unlimited. Come on. When? Who knows? Not our lifetime, or our kids. That I agree with.

                The middle east isn't even remotely relevant to world politics without oil. We are funding terrorism by buying oil, quite clearly. The middle east, Russia, Venezuela, economies are 100% oil. If we didn't use it, they would be screwed. We wouldn't have to fund military and TSA and all the other nonsense we do to deal with them. Much cheaper. This is my main interest in reasonable, technically-credible options to reduce dependence in oil. Solar works. Wind is largely stupid. Pumped hydro and compressed air work great for energy storage. Hydrogen is the new green snake oil. EVs work, and reduce energy consumption by >50%. Yes, they need to be cheaper.

                I do not buy cars thinking about leaving a city in in a forced evacuation. That doesn't enter my mind. I also don't worry about building a special bathroom for someone who identifies as an octopus... because both are such a trivial percentage. Maybe if I lived in New Orleans, but probably not, because I'd be dead from liver failure in two years ;)
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                • Posted by CaptainKirk 1 year, 9 months ago
                  Thor, having had to leave Florida. And getting stuck taking 27hrs to make a normal 12hr drive, with 18 of it being in Florida. It enters your mind, trust me.
                  When HOURS matter. I aint got time to charge my care.

                  I never believed in PEAK oil. But I am seeing recent signs, like Russian Oil output has declined ever since 2017, and Demand just keeps growing. Who knows how much oil there is. And admittedly, we are DECADES from making a dent with EVs. No infrastructure. We need Gen-IV nuclear. And should be cranking them out NOW!
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                  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 year, 9 months ago
                    Nuclear works for me. Still pulls the fiscal rug out from under our enemies.

                    I'm from FL. You never really have to leave. Particularly if you have a house that isn't built out of twigs and rubber bands.
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