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“uh, Ukraine has, uh, biological research facilities.” -Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland

Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 1 month ago to Politics
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"Self-anointed "fact-checkers” in the U.S. corporate press have spent two weeks mocking as disinformation and a false conspiracy theory the claim that Ukraine has biological weapons labs, either alone or with U.S. support. They never presented any evidence for their ruling — how could they possibly know? and how could they prove the negative? — but nonetheless they invoked their characteristically authoritative, above-it-all tone of self-assurance and self-arrogated right to decree the truth, definitively labelling such claims false.
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Unfortunately for this propaganda racket masquerading as neutral and high-minded fact-checking, the neocon official long in charge of U.S. policy in Ukraine testified on Monday before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and strongly suggested that such claims are, at least in part, true. Yesterday afternoon, Under Secretary of State Victoria Nuland appeared before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), hoping to debunk growing claims that there are chemical weapons labs in Ukraine, smugly asked Nuland: “Does Ukraine have chemical or biological weapons?”

Rubio undoubtedly expected a flat denial by Nuland, thus providing further "proof” that such speculation is dastardly Fake News emanating from the Kremlin, the CCP and QAnon. Instead, Nuland did something completely uncharacteristic for her, for neocons, and for senior U.S. foreign policy officials: for some reason, she told a version of the truth. Her answer visibly stunned Rubio, who — as soon as he realized the damage she was doing to the U.S. messaging campaign by telling the truth — interrupted her ."


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  • Posted by $ Abaco 3 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    McCarthy has been coming up a lot lately in podcasts I've been listening to...
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  • Posted by mccannon01 3 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    The title is: "Tucker: Why are we funding this?" It was broadcast 3/9/22 and it's about 16 minutes long and you will be pissed after watching it.
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  • Posted by NealS 3 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes, a good spin now coming out Rubio's pivot to shut her up. "They" now claim he did it because of what she was leaking might embarrass the US. Aren't we already embarrassed by this whole administration on every other subject and action?
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  • Posted by NealS 3 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Your comment of "acutely embarrassing" is accurate, they (we) are already spinning the true story and denying accountability.
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  • Posted by chad 3 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    As Mark Twain once pointed out; 'If voting accomplished anything they wouldn't let us do it.' Government is a collectivist machine. The experiment to discover if it could actually protect people was the closest a governing body has ever come to allowing individuals to be free. No government protects it's citizens in their rights and free agency. As little freedom as was allowed demonstrated that liberty produces incredible results for humanity. The governing body from the first president on was going to end in collectivism. The difference is only that the citizens think they are free and can make a difference while obeying a cruel and dysfunctional ruling class. Because they believe this they continue to try to live free while obeying those who will destroy them. The result will be their death and an ultimate claim on their lives and their production by the state given permission with their acquiescence.
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  • Posted by 3 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Many voters were misled, lied to. Does that deserve a death sentence? imo, no.
    Yes, they should have been more alert. They should have seen it coming after being lied to repeatedly.
    Just take away all the power from the federal government and see who survives without government assistance.
    That competition will be enough punishment and reward, imo, for the voters.
    But that's not adequate punishment for the corrupt businesses, politicians, lobbyists, bureaucracy, etc.
    who were 'following orders' and assisted in the conspiracy against the constitution and against the People.
    There should be a lot of business for undertakers.

    As for non-voters, until Trump, there hasn't been a choice that wasn't controlled by the Deep State.
    Choosing not to vote when you think the candidates (for national offices) are corrupt is nothing to be ridiculed for or ashamed of.
    imo, concluding the candidates are corrupt has been proven accurate.
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  • Posted by Aeronca 3 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Are these corrupt leaders and deep-state actors elected? How about voters? We who vote, deserve the nuke. Those smart enough not to care to vote, deserve to live. Are the non-voters so hated by many, perhaps more Objectivist than the politically voting minded?
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 3 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    I am in FL. I hate Rubio with a Passion.
    First, as a Jr. Person in Congress, he learned how to parlay his position. He sold his house for CASH, well above market prices, getting himself out of debt...
    Second, we have letters floating around, where he is asked to be paid as a consultant to hospitals, to help ensure they have fair representation in congress, and their goals are known, as well as to help the NAVIGATE the complex landscape of laws that impact them and the Federal Assistance they are probably getting...

    Nice... Raping Americans to profit yourself. Making unusually complex Rules so people have to pay you to interpret them, and then maybe getting special rules for your clients.

    Sounds EXACTLY like what "serving your country" should mean, and what our forefathers intended...

    But boy, he has a great smile, and a nice haircut... That should keep him in office for a while!
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  • Posted by CaptainKirk 3 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    It's so hard for me. In the 1980s I was so proud to be an American... Would fight to the death for my country...

    Today, knowing what I know... We DESERVE the Nuke! Not because of the Americans, but because we host this VILE DEEP STATE of OPPRESSORS and CORRUPTED ELITES.

    Maybe McCarthy had to go because he was right!
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  • Posted by Temlakos 3 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed. And there's more. Just wait two or three weeks. BTW, the Russians have laid down three conditions, all quite reasonable under the circumstances.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 3 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    How do we even know that the Russians were involved at all? My sources tell me that the Ukrainian military, or what's left of it - probably the Azov Regiment - are laying on false-flag pseudo-operations to blame the Russians.
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  • Posted by Temlakos 3 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    The Russians are in there to destroy those labs. And also to recover a certain class of artifacts, the presence of which in that area will prove acutely embarrassing - I mean, impeachment-level embarrassing - to certain public officials. I cannot reveal any more without compromising my source. I have to leave it to the Russian Foreign Ministry to make the Big Reveal. As they already have with this issue.
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    Posted by $ jdg 3 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    The sources I've seen (blogs and podcasts, and posters on Gab) say that the US has these labs in more than 100 countries. Given what Bill Gates has said about wanting to reduce the global population, I think we should be raising a lot more fuss and pressing all countries to shut them down before they inflict another and more deadly pandemic on us all!

    I also would like to see more of Rand Paul getting in Fauci's face about it.
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  • Posted by NealS 3 years, 1 month ago in reply to this comment.
    Are we sure it was a hospital? Are we sure it was recently? Are we sure it was in Ukraine?
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    Posted by NealS 3 years, 1 month ago
    Hmm, that was "conspiracy theory" up until last night when Tucker exposed the existence of the US funded labs. Now if he can expose the real scenario, of what the Russians are doing. It's obvious the Russians are not there just to make the rest of the world hate them.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 3 years, 1 month ago
    Yes, it was very interesting that Rubio immediately pivoted on his next question to "leading the witness" by asking her if she believed that the Russians were "projecting" upon Ukraine.
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  • Posted by $ Abaco 3 years, 1 month ago
    Yeah, don't worry. We should just worry about RUSSIA'S(!) management of bio labs in foreign lands - not the ones we still control. (very thick sarcasm here).

    When you look at the ethics of what we've been doing I have to wonder why we haven't taken a nuke in the past month.
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