When are Businesses Going to Ban Mask Wearers?

Posted by deleted 3 years, 3 months ago to Humor
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I want mask wearing people to stay out of my sight. Stay home. Shop at night. Hold their breaths in public.


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  • Posted by 3 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    A common sight in a mall. A teenager playing with her phone sitting in a kiosk. That job would drive me nuts.
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  • Posted by term2 3 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    the youngster customer service people dont slow down and speak loudly with their masks on. Just give me a kiosk !!!!
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  • Posted by 3 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Right! I'm in customer service, thank God I don't have to wear a mask. My customers...I can't hear their damn order to help them. I repeat, "What?" and eventually they pull their mask down and I can hear them. It's a bit comical. And frustrating.
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  • Posted by term2 3 years, 3 months ago
    I cant understand them when they talk to me. Customer service people should be picked who dont wear masks. If they want to wear a mask while working on a computer, fine...
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  • Posted by 3 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I've always liked Rand Paul, but it's true he's riding the Republican elephant to stay in office. The few times he says what he really thinks he is ignored by most everyone.
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  • Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Sheep think they might be libertarians until they learn that libertarians don't support government handouts stolen from producers.
    Then they go back to the corrupt politicians who provide 'free stuff', aka bribes and payoffs (stolen from producers) for voting for looters.
    The sheep have no principles and never will. None of them should be allowed to vote to enrich themselves at the expense of producers.
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  • Posted by $ Markus_Katabri 3 years, 3 months ago
    "This is no longer an issue of choosing the lesser of two commensurate evils. The choice is between a flawed candidate representing Western civilization – and the perfect candidate of its primordial enemies." -Ayn Rand

    Gotta love Ayn!
    She didn’t f*ck around and called it like it was.
    Being a survivor of Stalin brought that intolerance to BullShit out in her.

    Rand Paul’s biggest downfall is he masquerades as a Republican. I know he does this so he has some influence. But, as long as he conceals his libertarian roots the party will never be thought of as anything beyond “Republicans that want to smoke pot.” By the normies.
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  • Posted by MikePusatera 3 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    We are all good. I figured from the beginning that we agreed on most accounts. These arguments always reminds me of how my favorite thinker (A. Rand) hated my favorite President (Reagan). I think closest thing we have to a John Galt is Rand Paul but he just cannot generate the support. I still wonder if we should start over and build a party from scratch and start at the state level. We could support the Republican party at the national level. Like I said before I do not know the correct path.
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  • Posted by Commander 3 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Under color of law, and objective rationalism, what you have expressed, is correct.
    By 21 US 360bbb (I found the "Informed Consent" language that supports choice over mandate.)

    (e) Conditions of authorization
    (1) Unapproved product
    (A) Required conditions With respect to the emergency use of an unapproved product, the Secretary, to the extent practicable given the applicable circumstances described in subsection (b)(1), shall, for a person who carries out any activity for which the authorization is issued, establish such conditions on an authorization under this section as the Secretary finds necessary or appropriate to protect the public health, including the following:

    (ii) Appropriate conditions designed to ensure that individuals to whom the product is administered are informed—

    (II) of the significant known and potential benefits and risks of such use, and of the extent to which such benefits and risks are unknown; and
    (III) of the option to accept or refuse administration of the product, of the consequences, if any, of refusing administration of the product, and of the alternatives to the product that are available and of their benefits and risks.

    To force compliance not only violates this statute, it violates Civil Rights Act, Americans With Disabilities Act, 18 US sec 241 and 242 (deprivation and conspiracy to deprive Rights under color of law) and then we go State-side I found, arguably, 12 WI statutes up to class H felony.

    This is "Constitutional Carry". Keep it in your vest at all times!
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  • Posted by Jstork 3 years, 3 months ago
    In accordance witht he philosophy of objective rationalism, there is no reason to ban mask wearers.
    I would ask:
    - Do they have the right to wear a mask?
    - Are they harming anyone or posing a risk to others in any way?
    - Are they coercing others to wear a mask?

    Unless they are doing something adverse to affect the lives of others in a negative way: I would let them wear a mask (especially if they are paying customers). I would rather see them wear a mask and bring me money rather than ban them and not get their business.
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  • Posted by Tavolino 3 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My post was not personal, nor do I think you were aggressive. I applaud that you follow Objectivism, and as such, we all need to keep proper hierarchy, context, and perspective. As Objectivists, we know we have the best-looking car in the showroom with the most refined performance engine, but winning the race requires a driver who can continually adapt, not compromise, to the course's ever-changing conditions and other drivers. The divisive comment was meant not to split "our team" as we navigate the crashes, dirty drivers, mistakes, unintended mishaps, and other unknowns. It's a problem I've continually seen in my nearly 60 years of involvement. Just look at the schisms in the formal movement, or even this site while Trump was President.

    We are fighting for the soul of our country and many fundamental freedoms as we battle the authoritarian bureaucratic state that continually erodes our rights. There is no John
    Galt, and at this time, anyone who champions freedom and the individual should be supported. If we are in the game, at least we can attempt to present a rational voice, but we must first accept the metaphysically given and play the cards we're dealt.

    I agree with almost the entirety of your last paragraph, but I do not want to use this platform to discuss any personal disagreements you may have. You may private message me if you wish to continue to chat.
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  • Posted by 3 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    In my state Letitia James helped to ban the penalty for concealing identity in public. She who kicked out Cuomo and instead of taking his job decided to continue her quest to bog down Trump. I bet it puts her more in the spotlight, and gives her more power, than just stepping off the gravy train to be NYS Governor.
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  • Posted by Commander 3 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    2021 Minnesota Statutes
    Recent History
    1995 609.735 Amended 1995 c 30 s 1
    609.735 CONCEALING IDENTITY.
    A person whose identity is concealed by the person in a public place by means of a robe, mask, or other disguise, unless based on religious beliefs, or incidental to amusement, entertainment, protection from weather, or medical treatment, is guilty of a misdemeanor.

    Medical "treatment" is understood as being under a physicians care/recommendation/order.

    Go get em! Call the Sheriff, not local police.
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  • Posted by 3 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I haven't even thought to look. What a great meme source. On the door, two signs. Masks Forbidden. Masks Required.
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  • Posted by RevJay4 3 years, 3 months ago
    The signs are still on the entrances to banks forbidding masks. Left over from a more sane time when bank robbers wore masks, not everyday citizens.
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  • Posted by tutor-turtle 3 years, 3 months ago
    Re-breathing your CO2 and bacteria can have deadly consequences. A friend of my wife had her 38-year-old husband contract a bacterial lung infection and die. His employer made them wear their face diapers every day, for eight hours. He leaves behind three children and a widow.
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    Posted by MikePusatera 3 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Divisive?? Really. I suppose your idea of divisive is someone who disagrees with you? There was noting aggressive about my post. It is true that I do not live in Florida and have not broken bread with the Gov. But this is what I find on the internet in about 5 minutes.

    A visibly annoyed Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis admonished a group of students for wearing face masks at an indoor news conference Wednesday, saying it was time to stop what he called “this COVID theater."
    Ashley Hanna didn’t intend to defy Gov. Ron DeSantis when she offered vaccine-only classes at her yoga studio. That decision put Hanna on a list of more than 100 businesses and local governments reported to the state as violating a Florida law championed by DeSantis against vaccine requirements.

    This is the work of a true conservative. I will never believe an Objectivist would agree with these actions. I also refuse to be enslaved on the Republican plantation. The tea party tried to make changes to the party and has burned out. Maybe the 30% of elected republicans should join and legitimize the Libertarian party. I do not know the answer. But I do know the republican party has no more respect for my liberty than the Democratic party. Even if I do agree with most the conservatives policies.
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  • Posted by Tavolino 3 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    As an Objectivist, one must attempt to identify reality correctly. It appears that you are implying that Gov. DeSantis is using "public policy" to force people not to wear masks. That is false and misleading, and if that's your conclusion, I would advise you to "check your premise." One of Rand's significant contributions was that her philosophy was not "ivory tower" but a system utilized in the real world.

    Unfortunately, today's political system has become a binary choice of pro or anti-American with every policy and candidate. So your statement that Rand would think DeSantis is "the worst current politician out there" is not only baseless but divisive. Instead, I would refer you to her letter dated 8/28/72 (Vol. 1, No. 24) re the Nixon/McGovern election where she stated, "This is no longer an issue of choosing the lesser of two commensurate evils. The choice is between a flawed candidate representing Western civilization – and the perfect candidate of its primordial enemies."

    I have lived in Florida for over 40 years, have sat at intimate roundtable discussions with the Governor, and have family deeply rooted in the State's political environment. Your portrayal and assumptions do not help move our country away from the imminent abyss we face. It is the philosophy of Objectivism that is so needed today. Still, proper hierarchical identification and analysis are critical to applying the principles to realign our country away from its collectivist depravity.
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