Speaking from ignorance again. It amazing how you “know “ what Putin thinks and yet you know absolutely nothing on the subject. A fuQing treaty was signed and not adhered to. It was the Minsk protocol. It ensured safety to the residents of Donbas from attacks by the Neo Nazis the Ukrainian Nazis kept killing and attacking . This action is the result of years of warnings from Russia they were not going to take it any more.
BTW genius what does Russia have? They have Oil , gas and minerals and metals, lumber and
Fertilizer. You claim Russia is being hurt financially.
Yet they are having record prices for their commodities. I am sure not having Facebook or McDonalds or pornhub will hurt them tremendously, especially the gender issues , thank goodness we Have Gen Miley woke, resulting in higher productivity and better health must be horrifying.

I'm giving you trolls too much credit. You're not trolls--you're bots.

You want everyone to do your homework for you.
That is not very objective and is very collectivist , in fact your projection is right out of a narcissists playbook.

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Zelenskyy orders the press to consolidate to one source, he also outlawed the opposing political party. He is doing what a dictator would do and you ThinQ Ayn Rand would approve of supporting a dictator, let alone a fraud gay NAZI sympathizer.
You need to check your premises.

Oh, come on. You trolls are really getting ridiculous now.
Isn't there some other place where you can post each other's lies and leave this forum for followers of Ayn Rand.

term2,
Q: When WILL Zelensky grant the people of Donbass their God-given Human Rights of Self-Determination?
A:: Never

Emboldened by his own fake press image and Shiploads of NATO war materials, he's not even willing to allow Crimea to be free.

oraigerb, You're obviously never read a single word of any Russian publication. There is far more press freedom in Russia than in the US, or any Western European country. At the kiosk, you can find publications across the political spectrum. Contrast to the US, there is a media mob, where everybody agrees with the false narratives or their opinions are not allowed to see the light of day, and/or criminalized. You live in a cocoon.

Nice if a country can avoid looking in a mirror and blame its problems on "The Russians" or "White people" or "Christians" or "The unvaccinated", who's next?

Yes, this will not be WWIII
This will be Mutual Assured Destruction.
(Of course, that's if our nukes still work)

Big difference in my book. Nobody needs/wants land tainted by Nukes. The result would NOT be a WW... Only 5-7 countries would be involved?
And we would not quite know when it ended.

Don't forget Chechnya!

"The AZOV (Nazi's) in Mariupol moved the civilians into the theater and then blew it up, claiming the Russians bombed it from the air."
What is your source for this claim?

"Putin has NO interest in starting WWIII."
What about his veiled threat concerning nuclear weapons?

"But when you have total control of the media, and total censorship of opposing views, you can lie with impunity about the most horrendous, evil things."
You've described Putin exactly!

Actually, I dont stand with Ukraine on anything other than they shouldnt be invaded by Russian troops. Putin IS invading, and that is bad. He also invaded georgia, crimea, and now ukraine. He got away with all of it so far. If this was such a humanitarian mission, millions of ukranians woudlnt be risking their lives to escape ukraine

There are some similarities between Hitler and Putin. They are both violent dictators. They both seem to want to increase the territories of their countries through invasion. They both love power over people. There are probably a lot of differences between them too. But the multiple invasion playbook does seem to be the same.

why not just let the ukranians decide their own fate without Russia or the US interfering. This would require Russia to pull their soldiers OUT of Ukraine. If they keep invading (which is pretty easy to determine), then they are the evil ones. No media needed to make that call.

I have to agree with you on this. Without the application of reason, human nature seems to just degenerate into exactly what you are describing. Our politicians and government is not really any better. USA has invaded places under the guise of "freeing the people" when it shouldnt have. All we did in Afghanistan is empower the very Taliban group we were supposed to defeat.

Putin is just another statist dictator, not unlike Biden actually. Its a shame that people who just want peace and freedom have to bear the brunt of what these people do. If we do have nuclear war, we might all die for nothing...

Okay, so how is that second pipeline going?
How many times did the US interfere and go after the companies building it?

Why did we spend 20+ years in the dessert trying to topple syria in the end to get a pipeline through?

So, your argument is simply: You know Putin is bad. You ignore the vote in Crimea. But it's JUST LIKE Hitler steam rolling through Europe (btw, with a LOT of help from Ukraine, who kept their Nazi party. Same party exists today, still).

So, Putin is like Hitler to you.
But you stand with Ukraine and their Nazi Party!
(With the SS emblem and all). But downplay it, because it is only 2% of the country you have sworn allegiance to...

Got it!

why would germany sign up to buy its natural gas from russia if it wanted to stop russia from profiting from its energy reserves? Germany could have bought from the USA its natural gas but turned Trump down.

Putin is running the playbook of Hitler in terms of invading other countries one by one. With Putin it was georgia, crimea, the rest of ukraine, and why stop there....

term2: "Watch what they do" - you cannot believe what you see, either. The AZOV (Nazi's) in Mariupol moved the civilians into the theater and then blew it up, claiming the Russians bombed it from the air. "VIDEO at 7:00" of blasted theater. "The Russians did it!" Reality is no Russian planes bombing theaters. But when you have total control of the media, and total censorship of opposing views, you can lie with impunity about the most horrendous, evil things.

Some Ukrainians do not want to be Russian, but they are preventing ALL of the people from utilizing their God-granted rights of Self-Determination.

The point is that Hitler behaved completely differently. He was elected by Angry People, and he set out to simply build power.

Putin has NO interest in starting WWIII.
But NATO has been Pressing on Russia for DECADES. Pointing more missiles at him.

If you go back and look at this situation, you can see the chess pieces being moved. Eventually forcing this situation.

Ukraine is his Cuban Missile Crisis, egged on by the USA. Since we ADMITTED to triggering the 2014 color revolution with the leaked phone call...

But long before that, USSR then Russia, had a buffer. That buffer is gone. And our commitment to not convert those states to NATO, well, that's gone too...

I do NOT like defending Putin. But to the victors go history. And right now, we have been fed such UTTER BS about the roles of Ukraine and Russia in ALL of this.

All NARATIVES painted by the GLOBALISTS who NEED a WWIII right now so that the destruction of the USD does not fall on them. They can hide it with war, massive loss of life, and then when everyone is more exhausted...

We won't own anything, and we will LIKE IT.

Literally their plan, spoken aloud... And nobody sees the movement of the pieces making it happen.

I don't get the reasoning that Putin is a good guy for waiting 22 years to try to start WWIII while Hitler only waited 6 years before starting WWII.

Term, it is CLEAR now, that you have made up your mind. There is no changing it.
You believe things without doing real research, or listening to people who have strong connections.

You've said "Putin is Just like Hitler", but cannot show us how? (That makes it a belief, not a fact).

And you ignore the simple fact that the USA and NATO are egging this on. And it is about breaking Putin/Russia, stopping them from profiting from their energy reserves.

For Petes Sake. your claim he wants the former USSR back DIES in the face of 22 years to get Crimea back... WITH A VOTE. LOL

"a thug bully. He moves when the opposition is weak."
You just described every Western "leader", nearly every member of con-gress, every lobbyist, and every government employee (with a very few notable exceptions.)
Look at who the worm-food Buy-dem nominated for SCOTUS. A life long government employee, whose parents were life-long government employees. Just what a free country needs: Lifetime looters to dictate how all the American producers must live.
Putin is no more a bully than every looter in con-gress, big city government, and the Western Deep State.
The West created the situation that Putin responded to. I blame the Deep State for it, not Putin.
Try them and fry them.

Russia wants a functioning country to rule, not the bleak results of a country devastated by bombing with no people left. They want the residents to be like sheep and just blindly follow whatever the dictator says.

watch what they do, not what they say. I ignore nearly everything politicians say these days. I knew about the water supply. Of course the russians wanted free water once they invaded crimea. Just like they want the rest of Ukraine, the baltic states, Poland, and whatever else they can get. The issue is whether they CAN invade and take over, because if they can, they will