California bus shooting highlights need for popular concealed carry--more guns among legal citizens, not fewer

Posted by bubah1mau 6 months, 1 week ago to Culture
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People need to be able to defend themselves against armed lunatics--not bow down or cower in confronting irrationality.

This gunman was able to get off at least several rounds, killing/injuring several people. Had there been someone on the bus, experienced in firearms and possessing a handgun at the ready, this individual could/should have been stopped after the first round was fired.

In a society which is only partially free to own weapons (under highly restrictive conditions that apply only to those who obey the law), the answer is more freedom and less weapon-control for citizens, keeping dangerous thugs/crazies off the streets (or executing them after their first non-restitutable crime).

The people who died or were injured in this attack are victims of a flawed policy that tends to exonerate vicious criminals (and leave them in a position to access weapons) while denying or impeding the right of citizens to own weapons for their own defense and be in a position to form citizens' militias to oppose the rise of tyrants.

Did those victims vote for those who enacted that flawed policy of restrictive weapon ownership among citizens? If they did, they had their deaths/injuries justifiably coming to them. That's karma folks.
SOURCE URL: https://nypost.com/2022/02/03/california-greyhound-bus-gunman-who-killed-one-identified/


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  • Posted by $ Abaco 6 months, 1 week ago
    California is where I'd most expect this...as crazy as it is.
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    • Posted by 6 months, 1 week ago
      You're probably right--although I wouldn't be surprised at this nowadays just about anywhere re interstate busses. Driving one of those is a job I wouldn't care to have.

      Here in Montana, we have had some incidents on/near interstate busses but nothing anywhere near this magnitude of crazy.
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  • Posted by 25n56il4 6 months, 1 week ago
    Well I disagree with you on one thing. No killing is ''justifiable'. We have 'open carry' in Texas and I giggle ever time I see a person in jeans, stetson and side arm! And if they are wearing boots, I salute them.
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    • Posted by 6 months, 1 week ago
      If a person invades and threatens me on my own ground with a weapon, especially with a firearm, or if I see an atrocity about to be visited on someone else, and it's convenient for me, I have no problem about shooting to kill. In the case of the bus shooting (above link), the shooter, shooting people at random, might be aiming at me next if I were on the bus, so why wouldn't I shoot to kill him if I can get my gun out in time and get a round off?
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  • Posted by 6 months, 1 week ago
    This bus incident brings to mind an incident that happened in a Texas church not too long ago. Having a handgun and being prepared to use it doesn't necessarily save you as the perp managed to kill one person who tried to oppose him before being shot dead by another who was armed under Texas concealed carry law.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-can...

    If that hero hadn't acted promptly, who knows how many people in that church would have been slain or severely injured?
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  • Posted by terrycan 6 months, 1 week ago
    The last lines of the article do mention the shooter was not allowed to own a gun. I can't think of a new law that would prevent the shooter from buying another gun illegally.
    The shooter appears to be mentally ill. He also has a history of violence.
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    • Posted by 6 months, 1 week ago
      I have no problem with people with an arrest record in a properly governed state (where government respects Constitutional rights and
      liberties) being disallowed from legally purchasing weapons--provided that doesn't lead to extensive state surveillance of citizens.

      I think keeping a record of arrests and having that record available to weapons dealers is okay. Beyond that, surveillance becomes an infringement of the 2nd Amendment--our principal defense against tyranny.

      Also, the "mental state" of offenders shouldn't be a ticket to exoneration or living above the law. If a person can't restiltute for the crime he/she perpetrated, regardless of "mental state," the answer is death.

      If a person is in the act of threatening or taking human life in a non-defensive situation, that violence initiator should immediately be shot by any person carrying a firearm in the vicinity. Being mentally unstable is no excuse for initiating violence.
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