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Should Trump run again, and should we support him?

Posted by Storo 2 years, 4 months ago to Culture
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In the spirit of the old Chinese curse “May you live in interesting times.”, it is interesting that we have such an incompetent administration in the White House, and interesting to watch them stumble around and lie and spin, and bungle so many things important to Americans. So what to do?
It is clear Trump wants to run again, most likely to face Hillary again. But should he?
If one looks back at his 4 years in office, one sees a record of great accomplishments. Whether foreign or domestic, his administration took on seemingly impossible tasks and won.
We had relatively secure borders.
The economy was booming.
Inflation was nil.
Interest rates were low.
Unemployment was at record lows.
We got a COVID vaccine in record time.
Our relationships with other nations greatly improved.
North Korea and Russia were talking to us.
Our trade was greatly improved, and China trade deal renegotiated.
NAFDA was dumped and a new trade agreement signed that was more fair to the US.
So why would we not re-elect this guy? Answer: The media.
We lived through 4years of Trump in the White House with the media nipping at his heels the whole time. Trump never had a real chance to govern without lies, rumors and innuendo following his every step. He not only had to fight the Dumocraps, there were the false Russian collusion charges, the false dossier, the false inditement of Trump staff, lies and misrepresentations galore, false impeachments and an American public divided, rightly or wrongly, as never before.
I support Trump, and I believe that his record and accomplishments will stand up against anyone’s. In addition he has shown that he can get the job done. He deserves a second term. But what concerns me is that the Cabal, the Deep State, and/or his opponents and the media will pick up where they left off in January 2021, and we will have another 4years like his previous 4 years with fabricated lies, distortions and fabricated scandals as then promulgated by a corrupt leftist media and the socialist/communist Dumocrap Party.

So here’s the question; if we know that Trump will be slandered and face the same opposition and baseless accusations as in his previous administration, would you vote for him in 2024?


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  • Posted by $ CBJ 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Trump received 29% of the Hispanic vote in 2016, improving on Romney's 26% in 2012. Even if Ted Cruz had received 50% of the Hispanic vote, that would have represented a swing of only 2% of the total vote that year. Cruz would likely have lost more than that among "moderate" voters (who would have considered Cruz too conservative), populist-leaning voters (who would have considered Cruz too much of a political insider), and actual racial bigots (who would have declined to vote for Cruz because of his ethnicity). All things being equal, Cruz might have improved on Trump's vote totals. But all things were not equal, and I'm pretty sure Cruz would have lost to Hillary.
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  • Posted by $ DriveTrain 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I respectfully suggest that if Ted Cruz had been the Republican nominee in 2016, and assuming a capable campaign staff and an aggressive strategy, we would have already witnessed a sea-change in American politics that would have dealt a massive body-blow to the Democrat-Socialist Party. Namely this:

    A migration of the Hispanic vote to the GOP.

    No, the ethnicity of a candidate should not matter, but there are a whole lot of people for whom ethnicity and "heritage" and "color" are everything - to the point where they will vote for someone of their own tribe before someone of another.

    If the GOP were to nominate a black candidate of the strength of Allen West or Candace Owens, assuming either got elected it would essentially obliterate the Demo-Soc Party for the better part of the next century.
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  • Posted by Russpilot 2 years, 3 months ago
    I don't think that I would vote for him again as top of the ticket, but I would strongly consider a DeSantis / Trump ticket.
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  • Posted by 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I’m reminded of what Jesus said: May you who is without sin cast the first stone.
    Trump is not perfect. He’s not a politician who was raised and groomed by the Party to have the right spin/sound bite at any and all times. Disgusting person? Maybe, but that’s relative. I ignore that he runs his mouth, tweets, grabs women by the pussy (God knows I wish he didn’t.)
    That said, I consider Trump, with all his flaws, to be a patriot. He believes in the Constitution, and the vision of the Founders. He took no salary his entire time in office. And he told it like it is with regard to the shenanigans of Pelosi, Schumer and the rest.
    I first voted for President in 1968. In that election, and every presidential election since, I have voted for the lesser of two evils. I don’t expect future presidential elections to be any different. That’s what you get when you distill down the wishes of everyone across the country to one person - half or more of the people don’t like him much.
    The question today is whether we support Trump if he runs again, and when I think of the candidates the Dumocraps are likely to field, the question answers itself.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    My thinking is that the entirety of the populace pays into the fedgov meaning NPR and the CSPANS are our products. Removing the expense of media by forcing the candidates to use NPR radio and the CSPANS to covey their messages when not in person can only help.

    Other than that I agree with you.
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  • Posted by 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There is such a candidate out there. He is Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. Strong Trump supporter, and supported by Trump, conservative, fighter, and about as squeaky clean as you can find.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    One reason I picked my moniker is that libtards would view me as an old-fashioned dinosaur who ain't hip for being as warped as they are.
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  • Posted by $ DriveTrain 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Storo, I'm not arguing for some impossible, Libertarian-Platonic standard of "ideological perfection" - as I've said, a search for ideological perfection in any given politician would be a long and fruitless one.

    I'm arguing that Trump, comparatively, is utterly devoid not only of these candidates' greater intellectual depth, but even of their ideological vision. A perfect example is what I mentioned above about his bizarre default on education:

    In the period between his entry into the race in summer 2015 through his Inauguration in 2017 and to the end of his term, he gave evidence of complete obliviousness to there even existing a problem in American education. I honestly doubt he would've known (if indeed he does now,) of Howard Zinn's existence, or of the influence of Zinn's fraudulent work on students' attitudes toward core Americanism. It was only until the catastrophic spectacle of these punks, educated to America-hate, actually yanking down statues and publicly screaming "We're going to burn it [Western Civ] to the ground," that the condition of American "education" seemed to seep into his thick skull. Again, he didn't even address the issue until he was at the tail end of his re-election campaign - we are talking mid-September, 2020 - before he even got around to mentioning it! We cannot afford that level of obliviousness in a President or a Presidential candidate.

    I'm thinking Cruz - a Constitutional scholar, BTW - or Owens, or Noem, or West, would be hammering away at this from Inauguration Day as a #1 priority. Which in point of fact it is: every single caustic emanation we see from the collectivist crowd, whether in politics, in academia, in news media, in entertainment, in religion, has its roots in education. Trump still seems shockingly unaware of this issue's importance.

    There is no "perfect" politician in intellectual and ideological understanding and motivation. But finding politicians superior to Trump on ideological understanding and motivation is a veritable "fish in a barrel" proposition.
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  • Posted by 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    You guys in Alabama really are Allosaurs, aren’t you! :-)
    Just kidding. That system sounds absolutely wonderful to me!!
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  • Posted by 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I prefer a system in which:
    1. Each candidate should be limited to $20 million total to spend on the election, both primary and general elections.
    2. Campaigning should be prohibited prior to January 1st of the election year for primaries with all parties held on the same day 120 days later. And do away with conventions.
    3. After the primaries comes a one month pause.
    4. After the month pause, the general election is held in 90 days, during which candidates may campaign.
    5. Inauguration is 30 days after Election Day.
    Before anyone pulls out “first amendment” or “freedom of speech” arguments, please note that the Constitution does not specify that limits on campaigning is prohibited, and in fact leaves the manner that elections are scheduled up to the States. It only proscribes Election Day on the first Tuesday in November.
    I’m sick to death of the non-stop campaigns that start almost as soon as a president is sworn in. I believe that such campaigns make the candidates less focused on the people’s business, and makes it in his/her interests to be more argumentative and disagreeable.
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  • Posted by 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I ca hardly believe this post with the names you mention as possible alternatives to Trump, especially after suggested reading several articles that are pleas for conservative purity. None of these people fit that bill, and hardly fit the bill of “totally new, totally different”.
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  • Posted by NealS 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I see the problem as being the more "it" goes on the closer we get to war with guns, not just words. And Washington State is again working on reclassifying all semi-auto's as assault weapons. It's obvious why.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    First of all, Robert_Wade, I don't know who would down vote your post above because you expressed your opinion honestly, so I bumped it up. I can think of a negative item or two that might fit in your "A" column, but my support for him is definitely from the "B" column [that is if I understand what your "A" and "B" columns actually are - you didn't specify any examples, leaving the reader to speculate]. Let me venture a couple of guesses and you tell me if I'm right or wrong: The porn star hoopla is column "A", protecting US National sovereignty is column "B". Maybe a column "C" should be recognized, which would list populist support marketing and include his sarcastic humor as well as a few less than articulate pot shots at his opposition, which the MSMM always labels "unpresidential" and drops in column "A". Bottom line, I don't entirely disagree with you, but if Trump runs again he will get my vote.
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  • Posted by Robert_Wade 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't really care what the MSMM says. My opinion of him as a person (not a policy-maker) is based COMPLETELY on what I have OBSERVED. I have watched him over a few DECADES, in various different settings. This is why A) I still consider him a disgusting person and B) I believed he was pretending to conservative. He proved me largely wrong on B, but has yet to on A. But that's my opinion.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Brainwashing is subtle, and evident.
    Turn off the media because some of it is getting through.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The infiltration of this cancerous enemy is vast. The enemy had the bull horn, not anymore . The RINO ’s were thick like thieves during Sessions act. Look at it as a massive sting operation still underway. this game is far from over . Trump caught them all. He put Fraudauci front and center. He exposed them for what only a few of us knew. Just a year ago people would not believe the whole medical establishment is corrupt. Today a majority does. You are witnessing the dismantling of the old guard. 28 dems not running , hmmm seems they want out. Reason they know the gig is up.
    Check mate! NCSWIC.
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  • Posted by Dobrien 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Getting out and voting provides for a landslide that can not be denied. The cheating becomes much more difficult. Like 2020 we can see the election fraud was massive in most states. More votes than registered voters gives a clue.
    Elections never have 100% turn out period . End of story. But no , not end of story there is literally a hundred ways they cheated US to engineer this Color Revolution. We are at war and ignoring that fact is detrimental. It is not a war with guns and missiles . But Truth and Lies , Good vs Evil , traitors vs Patriots . I know what side you are on,
    and welcome.
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  • Posted by $ AJAshinoff 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    insanity - doing something repeatedly and expecting a different outcome each time.

    a few decades more and they can wallow and fester in their own shit..without my help getting there.
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  • Posted by NealS 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agree, but, I still believe not voting is unrealistic, it would evolve to just allowing the wacko's to remain in control. I also believe if we have another crooked election that the right does not have enough (guts) to put a stop to it or correct it.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 2 years, 3 months ago
    Trump has some baggage, which could prove counter productive. He has taken the vax, but was it Fauci version, or DARPA version, which would not wipe out immune sys.? He could not focus on being in touch, and had no real advosors to cover for him, while he tweeted with the VIEW! He and Pence blew vaccine oversight. Then he made Hunter the campaign issue, when he should have exposed the Green New Deal as plagiarized verion of what we rejeted for yars UN Agenda 21, which was deisigned to depopulate and take our rights away.. We knew the election would be stolen, Biden even admitted it happened on TV, but Trump seemed unable to wrap his head aroundd it. He was great at business, but the Pbama's behind the curtian scheming with the deep state, as he promised to do when he left Oval Office,, went right past them. While Obma met with V. Jarrett and GAtes in prrep for this "reset", Trump folks seems clueless. Not sure tht will make it again. He need someone younger, more in tune with the evils of the deept state, and ready to go for the juglar.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 2 years, 3 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "...if Ted Cruz had been the Republican nominee in 2016, we would now be a year into Hillary's second term." There's a lot to like about Ted Cruise and he would have gotten my vote, but I believe this assessment is likely correct. DriveTrain's list is a good one going forward, to which I would add Ron DeSantis, but none will draw votes like Trump. Use the list for picking a VP. Then again, if the Neo Communist cheat machine is up and running it won't matter.
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