Something is wrong statstically!

Posted by Arthgallo 3 weeks, 6 days ago to Politics
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Either fake or so filled with false assumptions they have made it believable to some
SOURCE URL: https://trendingpolitics.com/dems-celebrate-study-showing-trump-voters-more-likely-to-die-from-covid-hope-it-sways-midterm-elections-knab/


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    Posted by freedomforall 3 weeks, 6 days ago
    The state has lied about this from even before the first occurrence of the CCP virus.
    2. NPR has been a propaganda outlet for the left for at least 40 years.
    QED: A "study" that NPR had performed is just as reliable as everything else that NPR has said in the past. Reliably leftist state propaganda.
    This "study" is about as accurate as the global warming predictions of Al Gore.
    In a free country, NPR facilities would be burned to the ground and their employees tried for treason and executed.
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  • Posted by 25n56il4 3 weeks, 6 days ago
    It's my theory if you study enough statistics you will eventually find the ones you are looking for! This is garbage.
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    • Posted by mccannon01 3 weeks, 6 days ago
      Exactly, 25n56il4. From the article: "It is not clear where Dr. Hotez was getting his figures..." No more needs to be said.

      Commies cheering deaths of their political opposition is nothing new and gives everyone an insight to their psychological rot.

      Additionally, I recall some time back here in the Gulch someone put up a link showing the "MIT Election Data and Science lab" on the graph legend is in fact a left wing compromised entity and likely the "John Hopkins Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE)" is rowing the same boat. I don't believe either.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 3 weeks, 4 days ago
    The problem with nearly all studies of this type is that they're based on certain assumptions that may or may not be correct, and are static in nature. The common assumption Democrats who create these studies make, in error, is that minorities and independent voters will largely vote Democrat.
    However, a recent PBS poll indicated that the Hispanic vote had swung in favor of Republicans, and that the majority of independents also favor Republican candidates.

    Another error that's often made is that conservatives are predominantly elderly, which is one reason the study indicates supposed Trump supporters are more likely to die. There are many more young conservatives than most people realize.

    When your only hope is that the opposition dies, that doesn't speak well for your future. The Democrats have sold their souls to authoritarian power brokers, and have trapped themselves outside of most of the American population's view of the world.
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  • Posted by Joseph23006 3 weeks, 4 days ago
    Interesting hypothesis but does it really mean anything. Unless they actually know the voter registration and the candidate they voted for it tells us nothing. So a county voted for Donald Trump, what if all those who died were Democrats who voed for Biden, how is that a meaningful statistic? Too many variables to be of any use.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 3 weeks, 4 days ago
    Given that 85% of COVID deaths are in those 65+ (according to the CDC's own data), that means that a majority of those in the 65+ age group have the sense and life experience to vote against Democrats. This is actually born out in the data itself that shows that younger voters tend to vote more heavily Democrat than middle-aged and especially older voters. What's the phrase? "If you don't vote Democrat when you're young you have no heart. If you don't vote Republican when you're old you have no brain."
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 3 weeks, 4 days ago
    Libs are notorious at misrepresenting science and not understanding it. They lie! Since the majority of the vaxed, are liberals, except where mandated. the figures cannot be correct. At least when the erased iummune systems at 20 months past vax, it cannot be correct, as these are the folks that are already dying of small ailments because they can no longer fight off commone infections with next to no immune systems. Check out Univ. of Mich. release, which says, "Vaccines erase the immune system." They then tell of what they are seeing in hospitals where people are coming in with next to no immune systems left. One has to stick to the science. Frist, who got the vax willingly and in high numbers, and who has taken every vax. Remember, they did not poll hospitalized people for their politics. They would never tell their party members they were depopulating and that they were part of the mix. More Dems were expected to be led to slaughter thand reluctant free thinkers.
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  • Posted by $ jbrenner 3 weeks, 5 days ago
    While I agree that the statistics appear specious, the point is still an interesting one. If you voted Republican, were old enough that you had relatively little to live for, and observed the farce of 2021, wouldn't you be more likely to just no longer find life worth living?

    "Who is John Galt?" implies a "Why bother?" attitude. Did Ayn Rand make a premise that life is worth living without even realizing it?
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  • Posted by tutor-turtle 3 weeks, 3 days ago
    When Kyle Becker writes an article hoping for people he disagrees with to get disease and death, it is comrade Becker who is the sick one. Leftism is a mental disorder.
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  • Posted by NealS 3 weeks, 4 days ago
    Yah but, you know what a "yah but" is don't you. A "yah but" is a democrat that "celebrates" anything they are guilty of themselves that they try to make those that opposed them look guilty of. I think there are enough Americans now that see through their bs. Anything they claim their opposition is guilty of need to be investigated against them, period. Today their reversed claims are practically an admission of guilt because they have not not been held accountable for anything legally or morally,
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 weeks, 4 days ago
    Look, the vaccines are effective at reducing the severity of COVID infections. It does have side effects, and it does kill some people. This is being hidden. There are also alternatives that are being hidden and forced out by the government and media. However, statistically, the vaccine does improve your chances.

    Trump supporters are more likely not to have taken the vaccine, and no doubt, more did suffer. This should not be a surprise.

    None of this supports forced vaccination. Forcing people to do something where there is no other victim is fundamentally wrong. The fact the the government and media are lying about other options, the number of total deaths and vaccine side effects does not mean the vaccine is statistically bad.
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    • Posted by 3 weeks, 3 days ago
      I’m not convinced. All the data that vaccines reduce severity comes from some government source. I don’t believe government sources.
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      • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 weeks, 3 days ago
        So you studied this, or you had an opinion, and argued it, or sought supporting data?

        Your assertion is incorrect. Many studies, including everyone's favorite Israeli studies, which have been manipulated to assert vaccines cause the Earth to rotate around Mars, show the vaccine statistically provides better outcomes.

        https://www.news-medical.net/news/202...

        Here is an Indian paper, you know, the India where we assert Ivermectin solves all problems.

        https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34585...

        The vaccine works. We should not erode our own credibility simply because the enemies of freedom attempt to force it upon us. Be objective. Vaccine = sensible, unless you have an allergy, a religious reason, or already recovered and vaccinated yourself with your natural immune system. Even then, there is no evidence that the vaccine hurts.

        No one here would argue anyone should be forced. However, I would argue that asserting COVID doesn't exist (don't laugh. That came up here), or the vaccine cause one to be magnetized (came up here too, and I can show you though first principles this is nonsense.), or the statistics for severe or mortal outcomes after being vaccinated are inferior to being unvaccinated, make us look like those with cognitive dissonance, just like the socialist-totalitarians we detest.
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        • Posted by Lucky 3 weeks, 3 days ago
          Studied? Yes. Sought supporting data? Yes.
          Data from Israel- 1) the Pfizer works so well it needs repeating after 5 months, then at (possibly declining) intervals, the fourth jabbing is being planned. 2) Proportion of vaccinated hospitalized is higher than proportion of non-vaccinated.

          Correct, the vaccines work - but what is this work that is done?

          Vaccines produce some small added resistance to the virus demonstrating symptoms, but a greater risk of injury from the vaccine, such injury often leading to death.
          Careful analysis, not just quoting gov stats, of data from everywhere, admittedly difficult due to gross cover up and manipulation, show this.

          It is young men who are especially hard hit: cardiac, heart, myocarditis, pericarditis, shortness of breath, chest pains, heart attack, acute heart failure. footballers dropping dead during a game.
          Reporting on main stream media -Nothing

          Since Dec 2020, the COVID ‘vaccines’ have caused:
          19,532 deaths, and 927,740 injuries
          Source. VAERS, US. Now adjust for under-reporting by about 41 times

          https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/news/pfi...

          The Pfizer document is:
          5.3.6 CUMULATIVE ANALYSIS OF POST-AUTHORIZATION ADVERSE EVENT REPORTS OF PF-07302048 (BNT162B2) RECEIVED THROUGH 28-FEB-2021
          One of the first released, damning.
          https://phmpt.org/pfizers-documents/

          https://www.projectveritas.com/news/f... 20Sep2021
          “They [government] are not reporting [adverse COVID vaccine side effects]…They want to shove it under the mat.”
          "they [government] are not treating people [with COVID] like they're supposed to, like they should. I think they want people to die.”

          UK. Oxford. 20Dec2021. on 14Dec2021 paper on a study that found one percent of all vaxed went into hospital or died with arrhythmia or irregular heartbeat.
          (myocarditis, pericarditis, and cardiac arrhythmias)
          Of 38,615,491 individuals vaxed, 385,508 admitted to hospital with or died from cardiac arrhythmia, 39,897 (10.3% of the admitted) had a positive test result for wuhu, 7,795 deaths with cardiac arrhythmia recorded as the cause of death.
          https://www.nature.com/articles/s4159...
          "Risks of myocarditis, pericarditis, and cardiac arrhythmias associated with COVID-19 vaccination or SARS-CoV-2 infection"

          etc.
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          • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 weeks, 2 days ago
            Did you actually read the data?

            Look at the table in the last paper you reference:
            https://www.nature.com/articles/s4159...
            It does not say that 1% of the people got an arrhythmia from the vaccine. It says 1% of the people in the study (>40 yrs old) had an arrhythmia, before or after getting the vaccine. Many of the people were admitted in the 28 days BEFORE the vaccine. This is the purpose of such data, to form a control group.

            I'm not going to read the other articles and provide a Cliff Notes version. If you have a belief, and seek data to serve it, you will no doubt be rewarded.

            Yes, the government misbehaved. Yes the government covered up information. Yes, they have some bizarre motive. However, this does not mean the Earth is flat, we didn't land on the moon or the vaccine is not provide statistically superior outcomes for middle aged and older and the infirm.
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        • Posted by freedomforall 3 weeks, 3 days ago
          So why are so many sports athletes keeling over on field after getting the jab? I guess there were a lot of such critical ill health events suffered by athletes in the past that were ignored by the media?
          The vaccines improve my chances? Do they do so as well as other alternatives that have no significant side effects over decades of use?
          Why are the records of the vaccines testing being suppressed for 65 years ? (This is almost as bad as suppression of details of the JFK murder.)
          I'd bet you'll never see "the statistics for severe or mortal outcomes after being vaccinated" compared to being unvaccinated and using other known effective treatments because that will impede the goal of getting the maximum number to join in the experimental drug trial.
          Yes, something did make lots of people sick, no doubt, but the details have been purposely hidden, lied about, and 'testing' has been wholly inaccurate.
          The system of reporting has been rigged to create panic and that isn't a coincidence.
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          • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 weeks, 3 days ago
            You are completely correct that data is being covered up. The clear hypothesis is the government doing exactly what China and other totalitarian governments do to control people.

            Worse, is that the blame for this is not being laid at the feet of China for the "accidental" release and the US for funding the development. Rather than investigating the January 6th junior high school "vandalism, they should be investigating with vigor, the development of COVID, and what new rules we need to ensure an accident far worse than all nuclear accidents combined doesn't happen again. Who cares who shot JFK?

            No doubt young people 1) don't need the vaccine, and 2) have been harmed. The data is for the broader population of adults, particularly the elderly and infirm, which we have a lot of in the US.

            These are all true, but none of it is evidence the vaccine doesn't work for 30-110 yr old people.
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            • Posted by freedomforall 3 weeks, 3 days ago
              And the evidence of what the vaccines do and how devastatingly dangerous it was predicted to be won't be released for 65 years, after the irreversible damage has been done.
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              • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 weeks, 2 days ago
                Agree, this is wholly ridiculous, criminal in fact. The idea that they could review and approve the vaccine in 18 months, but can't . The judge should have just required they release the documents in whole, or release them to a third party, and the third party go through the data for whatever is not releasable. Why anything should be withheld is a mystery.

                All this is clear evidence of government coverup.
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                • Posted by freedomforall 3 weeks, 2 days ago
                  According to this study, the body's T-cells are responsible for much of the defense against Omicron. The vaccines effects are negligible (and vaccine boosters are just more profiteering while hiding the vaccines' negative side effects.)
                  https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/t-c...
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                  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 weeks, 2 days ago
                    Possible that the vaccines are not helpful against mutations. AND there is clear evidence natural immunity is superior to vaccination.

                    Omicron seems like the last gasps of the virus, and the last hope for the totalitarians to scare the population into giving up freedom.
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