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Elon Evil Emperor of Transportation

Posted by freedomforall 3 years, 5 months ago to Philosophy
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Excerpt:
"An interesting item in the news the other day got almost no attention.

The thing that got attention in the news was the news that a “ . . .problem with Tesla servers on Friday once again left hundreds of drivers unable to enter and operate their electric cars.”

No analysis of the implications was offered.

Ergo, it’s well to consider them.

For the past 120 years or so – since the first cars began rolling under their own power – it was taken as a given that the people who owned them controlled them. The keys were a physical symbol of ownership because he who held the keys controlled the car. Parents would threaten to withhold the keys from their teenaged drivers, if their grades slipped, for instance.

But once you were no longer a kid, if you held the keys then the car was yours. You used to see dangling-suggestively keys in car ad copy; the implication being – this could be yours (and by implication, no one else’s).

Not anymore.

Not if it’s one of Elon’s electric cars. Because Elon holds the keys – and you never will, no matter that you’re not a teenager, you paid for the car and Elon isn’t your father. But he is your overlord. He and his fellow managers intend to lord it over all of us – and electric cars are the perfect vehicle for that.

They have two plugs – one physical, the other virtual.

You use the physical plug to charge the thing up.

They use the virtual plug to determine how much and how fast you’re allowed to charge up – and (cue Emperor Palpatine voice) many other things, besides."


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  • Posted by 3 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    If everyone accepts slavery as inevitable, it will continue.
    We would still be a British colony if the Founders had accepted that.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 3 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    There's a long heritage of those types, going back to Rockefeller, so you either learn to live with them, or beat them at their own game. I don't have the time or energy to waste on hating them.
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  • Posted by 3 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    The fed will just bail them out, but I agree CNN deserves corporate death.
    As for the employees, they have been 'just following orders' for years. Ban them from ever working in any capacity in media or 'journalism.'
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    It is another one of the conveniences that comes with a loss of freedom, that the world will endorse with open arms.
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 3 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I don't begrudge any business for taking advantage of government stimulus to promote their product. You have to accept the fact that every auto manufacturer gets handouts in one form or another for emissions or safety elements incorporated in their vehicles, so they're just less efficient "looting SOBs."

    It would be better to let a real free market pick the winners, but given our current government's efforts to "spread the wealth" I credit Musk for being more willing to roll the dice with his personal wealth. His SpaceX competition, as in the ULA, risks nothing, expecting the taxpayer to pick up the whole tab.
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  • Posted by 3 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Speaking of the Communist No-truth Network:
    CNN Op-Ed: “Nothing More Frightening Than an Angry White Man”
    https://www.summit.news/2021/11/22/cnn-publishes-op-ed-nothing-more-frightening-than-an-angry-white-man/
    (Sorry but the Gulch doesn't recognize the above link as a link.)
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  • Posted by 3 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    "don't imagine he'd be too cooperative with government interference in his auto business"
    "His" auto business is based upon payments from all taxpayers making "his" products competitive against products that have no such payments.
    May the looting SOB move to Mars ASAP.
    (Elon could change my mind by using his stolen loot to set up a Gulch of Liberty and free markets, a la, Ragnar Danneskjold. I'm not holding my breath.)
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  • Posted by mccannon01 3 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    LOL, "less than rational", you're sweet talkin' here, FFA. Going through the fob problem I had I told the dealer it was totally F--KED up engineering! LOL. What SHOULD have been a simple pop-out-the-old-battery-and-pop-in-the-new (maybe 2 bucks and a trip to Walmart) turned into a $250 day at the dealer while they reprogrammed and farted with this and that to get it working again. My patience for incompetence and PPE (Piss Poor Engineering) was smoking!

    Edit add: AND to make matters worse all they would put on the waiting room TV was CNN! By the time I left I could puke on the dealership floor!
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 3 years, 5 months ago
    Hey, don't worry about any kinda cars, y'all. A month or two ago me dino read that the genius in the White House said that he wants to replace cars with trains. Wouldn't that be a sight?
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 3 years, 5 months ago
    Rather than evil intent, how about we chalk this up to a dumbass error by the Tesla quality assurance team? Sometimes, programmers get too cocky (I know, as I had to rap mental knuckles many times) and fail to follow test procedures before installing upgrades.

    One of the credible claims by the Tesla team is that they intend to provide performance upgrades remotely, so the owner doesn't have to drag themselves and their vehicle into a dealership. Judging from what friends who own the vehicles say, they've been excited with the idea that they can get range improvements and safety upgrades, which they can only get by owning a Tesla. With other vehicles, what you buy is the best you're ever going to get.

    The problem with being on the bleeding edge of technology is that sometimes things don't work the way they were intended. My dad bought a 1939 Buick after WW II, because it had an "altitude adjustment" carburetor, and he was planning on moving the family across country, knowing he would be driving over the mountains. Surprise! the carburetor didn't work as advertised, and he spent much of the move under the hood of that Buick, cussing a blue streak.

    Could the government abuse its reach and micromanage our lives? I'm sure they would like to, which is why I still don't have "smart" meters or thermostats. There's already a healthy industry of alternative chipsets for modern vehicles, and I'm sure one will grow for the Tesla vehicles.

    What I'm finding is that Elon Musk has become the new Trump for media pundits, with sinister motive attributed to every element of his technology empire. However, he is not a government pawn, but a thorn under its backside, much like Howard Hughes used to be, so I'm reading government motives for the sudden hostility from the media directed at him, which is one reason I don't imagine he'd be too cooperative with government interference in his auto business.
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  • Posted by $ gharkness 3 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Says any person who voluntarily takes ANY coerced medical procedure :-)

    This is not pointed at you - I rightfully don't know and don't want to know YOUR medical information, but so many are willing to 1) share their info and 2) accept whatever the state has in store for them. And then indignantly state that "No sane person would allow someone else to control their Liberty and Freedom."
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Keep in mind that virtually zero modern cars have even a direct connection from the gas pedal to the throttle. This is controlled by a computer, and then the computer controls the fuel injection and spark timing too.
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 3 years, 5 months ago
    Driver-less cars are coming. In fact, I suspect automobiles will be a service, vs product, model before I start pushing up daisies.

    Worrying about this is less important, than freedom in the driverless era, but it is a very irritating trend, with no consumer value.
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  • Posted by $ gharkness 3 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Yes and no. (At least as far as I am aware), so far vehicles with key fobs also have physical keys that can be used to unlock the car. Even if you "forgot" your key, the car CAN be unlocked without "permission." It's just inconvenient.
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  • Posted by $ blarman 3 years, 5 months ago
    My cousin works for a major chip manufacturer. He has nothing but disdain for Tesla vehicles - not because of the principle of electric cars (which I disagree with) but with the shoddy design and manufacturing. In his opinion, "software companies have no business building vehicles." He goes into great detail about the idiocy of the touch interface which starts the car, then into a hundred other details which I doubt the common buyer is even aware of. As he's coming into town this week, I'll have to ask him if he adds this to his rather vouminous list of design concept failures in the Tesla vehicles.

    Myself, I just have to avoid running them over when they cut me off in traffic. I don't know whether it is just the mindset of the self-important/self-entitled people who purchase those kinds of things or what but I haven't been impressed with the ones which have nearly involved me in an accident of their creation...
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  • Posted by 3 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    When replacing a key fob costs as much as replacing an engine (or worse the entire vehicle) you know there is a less than rational design problem.
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  • Posted by mccannon01 3 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    Agreed, VetteGuy. I mentioned the GTX to illustrate simplicity. That is, cars don't need a lot of frills to make them run or be useful. I would not advocate retrofitting an injector system back to a carburetor, but the integration you mention illustrates how absurd things can get. I don't like the idea that my car can be shut off or other inappropriate actions done remotely even while I'm driving it, but as you say that is a programming or chip swap problem. I never had a key problem with a vehicle, but I've had fob problems that were a PITA and a small fortune to fix.
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  • Posted by VetteGuy 3 years, 5 months ago in reply to this comment.
    I like the idea, but it will be more complicated than just sticking a carb and distributor on it (a la 69 GTX). I once replaced the gauges on a car (thinking it a simple swap) and the cruise and overdrive stopped working, along with the cooling fans. And that was on an '88 model! Things are very integrated these days. It will be a programming issue, rather than a mechanical fix.
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  • Posted by $ Olduglycarl 3 years, 5 months ago
    Disappointed...thought the boy was at least 1/64 on our side...and still skeptical...
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    Posted by VetteGuy 3 years, 5 months ago
    Unfortunately this is not likely confined to Tesla's. You know that number you can call to "magically" unlock your car if your key fob goes dead? What if the "controllers" decide to keep you locked OUT?

    " Oooh ... this person has dangerous political beliefs. He must be stopped! Click"

    Of course I'm just being facetious ... right?
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