US Marines get ‘dominated’ by British colleagues in desert exercise
Posted by freedomforall 2 years, 5 months ago to Government
Excerpt:
"The UK’s Royal Marines have reportedly handed a decisive defeat to their US counterparts during exercises in California’s Mojave Desert, with the Americans losing so badly they asked for a time-out halfway into the mock battle.
A commando of Royal Marines deployed to the US Marine Corps facility in Twentynine Palms last month for Green Dagger 2021 exercises, among other things in order to test a new force structure. After training with Dutch, Emirati and Canadian colleagues, they were pitted against the USMC in a five-day fighting exercise.
The 40 Commando proclaimed on Saturday that they were “victorious,” offering no further details.
According to the Telegraph, however, the Royal Marines “dominated” their USMC counterparts. US forces were so badly mauled after the first two days, they reportedly asked for a “reset.” At one point, the 40 Commando’s “kill board” showed almost every US asset as either destroyed or rendered inoperable.
The exercise area stretched over 3,500 square kilometers (1,350 square miles) of desert and mountains, including urban settings populated by actors playing civilians. The British force began in control of 20% of the area, and ended up commanding 65% at the end of the battle. They reportedly succeeded by targeting the US headquarters and its valuable equipment, “paralyzing” the Americans’ counterattacks. British artillery and fighter jets helped the commandos to advance, and a last-minute USMC counterattack was repelled."
"The UK’s Royal Marines have reportedly handed a decisive defeat to their US counterparts during exercises in California’s Mojave Desert, with the Americans losing so badly they asked for a time-out halfway into the mock battle.
A commando of Royal Marines deployed to the US Marine Corps facility in Twentynine Palms last month for Green Dagger 2021 exercises, among other things in order to test a new force structure. After training with Dutch, Emirati and Canadian colleagues, they were pitted against the USMC in a five-day fighting exercise.
The 40 Commando proclaimed on Saturday that they were “victorious,” offering no further details.
According to the Telegraph, however, the Royal Marines “dominated” their USMC counterparts. US forces were so badly mauled after the first two days, they reportedly asked for a “reset.” At one point, the 40 Commando’s “kill board” showed almost every US asset as either destroyed or rendered inoperable.
The exercise area stretched over 3,500 square kilometers (1,350 square miles) of desert and mountains, including urban settings populated by actors playing civilians. The British force began in control of 20% of the area, and ended up commanding 65% at the end of the battle. They reportedly succeeded by targeting the US headquarters and its valuable equipment, “paralyzing” the Americans’ counterattacks. British artillery and fighter jets helped the commandos to advance, and a last-minute USMC counterattack was repelled."
DJT
Nevertheless, based on something else me dino read on what all the US Armed Services are being taught, the US Marines still has the Royal Marines beat about all things CRT.
When me dino was as Parris Island way back in 1969, we were taught there are no white and black Marines because we were all green.
Now white Marines are taught they are natural born racists and black Marines are made to think they are inherently oppressed.
Hey, and you can bet that's how Marines better answer written test questions if they ever want to get off the island as graduated Marines.
I can just hear them chanting now at PT (physical training): "Who are we? CRT! Racist Corps! Marine Corps!"
Yep, good ole' CRT. Now is that or is that not a great getting along combination for a spiffy fully coordinated kill or be killed fighting unit?
I hear they have pretty decent snipers, as well.
The event is well reported elsewhere with the same news, eg:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021...
The Telegraph makes a few more points:
-The UK marines have been doing much reassessment such as do they have role when anti-ship missiles can hit a target hundreds of miles from a coastline, just getting to the fight will soon be problematic.
-These exercises are taken seriously, close to stresses in real combat,
mistakes happen, people are hurt – occasionally, tragically, killed – but there are no points for second place in a real war so corners are not cut in training.
-While the British commandos enjoyed early success, their maxim is “train hard, fight easy” – only the most foolhardy armchair general would disparage the incredible men and women of the US Marine Corps.
Reading between the lines, the US marine people are good but maybe there is a lack of serious strategic and capability planning at high level.
Many front line troops know the difference and recognize when the 'leaders' are liars.
I wouldn't put my life on the line for the current 'leaders'.
Unfortunately, the rt publishes more truth than all the US media 'news' sources put together.
I really wish that more Americans could critically and rationally read the news reports and make conclusions based on the evidence instead of allowing the media to think for them.
1776
War of 1812
WW!
WW2
Falklands (no US equipment/information, they would have likely lost)
and it was likely only 3 Marines, with M16s, vs British Marines with Lee Endfield 303s, fighting at 1,000 years only, no closer
(303 British vs 5.56 at 1,000 yards, ask someone that know about how pathetic 5.56 is)
/s
If you want a rifle round with a nice, flat trajectory, my brother built one around the Grendel platform. Though a much pricier round than the 7.62 or Winmag .308, you can almost use iron sights with almost no elevation adjustment on that out to 300 yards (if - unlike me - you can actually see that far). It doesn't kick any worse than a .308.
Soviets did not care about wounded
North Koreans did not care wounded
Chinese did not care...
Taliban did not care...
they might come back and get survivors, but when wounded, they would not stop to get them
we SHOULD have learned that in Korea
You don't get too many from those on your list who risk themselves in any way. They have to be ordered to attack in human waves because their leaders don't care about the mounting casualties they have to endure to take an objective. It's callous and insensitive and an economically disastrous way to wage war.
5.56, using soft points
308
30-06
300 Win Mag
45-70
50 Beowulf
7.62X39
5,45X39 (NASTY round)
5.7X28
500 Mag
458 WinMag
to name few
lol
or
50 Beowulf, 338 Lapua Mag, 7.62X54R
ect