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  • Posted by term2 1 month, 1 week ago
    No matter how you cut it, Baldwin is a murderer. He pulled the trigger and is ultimately responsible for what happened. He will probably be let off, because he is a leftist, however.
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    • Posted by $ allosaur 1 month, 1 week ago
      When stupid gun-hating lib actors make their big money making shoot 'em-up-flicks, they should at least know what a blank looks like and be taught how to load their guns themselves~~not take the word of the "expert" on the set who may or may not have a checkered past.
      Me dino recalls some advanced USMC training at Camp Lejeune where Marines were actually shooting blanks at each other at close range during 1970. Oh, and there are tons of live rounds for M16s at Camp Lejeune, mind you. But each Marine there visually knew the difference between a live round and a blank round and we personally loaded our weapons. Trainee Private Dino shot close range at privates in my sights and privates shot back at me. Our smoking breaks endangered us more.
      After all these years, I can't recall reading or hearing news about a Marine shooting another with a live round thought to be a blank.
      That goes for the U.S. Army, too. Navy SEALS also.
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      • Posted by $ TomB666 1 month, 1 week ago
        1963 (Basic) and 1969 (OTS) USAF - we were taught and closely monitored the entire time we held a firearm. Don't leave us out just because we don't sleep in tents ;-)
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        • Posted by $ allosaur 1 month, 1 week ago
          Por favor excuse a Marine for not knowing jack about USAF training.
          Heck, I don't even know anyone who was in the USAF save for yourself, I guess.
          My middle name Alvin was my dad's brother and best friend who flew a P-51 that shot down three Italian planes before an ambushing Messerschmidt sent him and his plane last seen diving into the Mediterranean.
          Back then the Air Force was but a wing of the Army, though.
          Wing, get it? Hardy-har-har-har!
          That's so funny me dino almost laughed.
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          • Posted by $ TomB666 1 month, 1 week ago
            Until 1947 it was, dare I say, a Branch of the army. I did laugh at your comment :-)

            Four service men were in a pub when someone asked them "What would you do if you woke to find a snake in your tent?" The Marine said he'd take his knife slice it up and fry it for breakfast. The Sailor said he'd cut its head off and throw it in the pot for his stew. The solider said he'd use his M-16 and blow it to bits. The airman said he'd call the front desk and ask why is there a tent in my room?
            :-)
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    • Posted by cranedragon 1 month, 1 week ago
      "Murder" generally requires "malice aforethought" -- which is not the same as malicious, but does carry the meaning of intent to kill. Unless there are lurking facts that I haven't seen about a hidden intent on the part of Baldwin to kill, this is not "murder". I'm not going to parse the laws of the jurisdiction, but this reads more like involuntary manslaughter. Just because he's not our favorite guy doesn't turn accident [or someone else's screwup] into murder.
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      • Posted by term2 1 month, 1 week ago
        He did kill the other person, most likely by accident tho. He should at least be civilly liable for damages. If someone gets killed in my house, I think I would get sued and lose
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  • Posted by freedomforall 1 month, 2 weeks ago
    Hollow points are less likely to penetrate than solid points. The 'point' is to widely tear up the flesh, not penetrate through the body.
    Victim wasn't a choreographer. Poster (saulm78?) is an ignoramus.
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    • Posted by evlwhtguy 1 month, 1 week ago
      Damn dude...you beat me to it. Amazing how uninformed people make big statements about firearms. As you stated, a hollow point is actually less likely to penetrate one parson to than hit another. In point of fact....assuming the firearm was a Colt SAA [The only firearm I have seen this far pictured in the reports] The bullet would have been most likely a round nose lead solid. Given the svelte figure of the woman shot..[reportedly in the stomach] It is entirely likely that the round would have gone clean through her and had enough energy on the other side to injure the other person. Was it a Clinton plot.....I personally think it unlikely....I suspect it was poor prop management compounded by the stupidity of Alec Baldwin. If the Clintons were going to do this woman...there are much better ways to do it than this. I also have doubts that the pictured tweet from the victim is real. It is too cute by far.
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      • Posted by $ katrinam41 1 month, 1 week ago
        Considering this movie was a western, you are absolutely correct that it had to be a Colt SSA. I have heard several "experts" talking about two or three shots fired and immediately discounted them as idiots. The SSA (single action Army) cannot be fired just by pulling the trigger. It needs to be manually cocked after each shot. Just ask my Ruger .45LC SSA.
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        • Posted by evlwhtguy 1 month, 1 week ago
          One thing must also be taken in to consideration...once cocked the SAA has an extremely light trigger. If someone was dumb enough to cock the thing....which takes a modicum of effort as the hammer must come back a long way,....it would be very easy for a person unfamiliar with firearms' to tighten up on the trigger and fire it.
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  • Posted by mhubb 1 month, 2 weeks ago
    first caption is a lie
    a FMJ is more likely to over penetrate
    that is one reason to use a hollow point to prevent over penetration

    not worth my time is that is the level of knowledge shown
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 1 month, 1 week ago
    That last picture’s arguments are flawed. Hollow points don’t help penetration. They dissipate more energy and damage to the first tissue they encounter, and penetrate far less.

    That looks like a troll comment from China to incite.
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    • Posted by $ 1 month, 1 week ago
      Naw, just someone that didn't fully do their homework but I only vetted the core of the story, That was the important part...at least they got that right; had they not, I just would have scraped it.
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  • Posted by drjmetz 1 month, 1 week ago
    "Choreographer."

    Oh, please. Spare me.
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    • Posted by $ gharkness 1 month, 1 week ago
      She was a cinematographer. Not quite the same. The rest..sorry, I can't care enough to read it all.
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      • Posted by $ 1 month, 1 week ago
        The connection from Baldwin to the Lawyer/wife to hiltery and Epstein is accurate and that's all that matters.
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        • Posted by $ gharkness 1 month, 1 week ago
          Not criticizing your comments, OUC; just commenting on what others have said and providing the correct info. Lack of interest has nothing to do with you and everything to do with I just got back in town and trying to catch up all at once. Prolly should have just shut up :-)
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          • Posted by $ 1 month, 1 week ago
            No prob. Journalism these days is rife with errors and it just makes it more difficult to vet the story out.
            Just after I went through all the trouble vetting the story out...all the other outlets started reporting on it...to date, only one caught the choreographer error whereas I was only concerned about the core of the story.
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