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Is ANY Property Safe From The Lying, Cheating, Stealing Federal Government?

Posted by freedomforall 2 years, 6 months ago to Government
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"In Beverly Hills, California, there is a private service that provides lockboxes for people’s valuables. It is called U.S. Private Vaults. It seems more promising, to some degree, than a box at a bank, where the government has a long history of breaking in.

There was never any particular reason to think that the company could not keep its promises. Many people did trust this company with vast amounts of personal wealth. However, being a private company provides no real protection when the government has an agenda.

After all, we learned over the last 20 months that there is nothing that limits governments’ rights to have their way with private business. They can break in, shut them down, keep them closed, bankrupt them, and there is very little that can be done to stop it.

Six months ago, the FBI raided this company, broke into 800 different boxes by force and took all the contents. They claimed this was justified because they had probable cause that the box contents were gained from illicit activity. They have yet to prove that, however.

The company’s website has posted a notice. It now has a notice:

“PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT LEGAL COUNSEL JUST RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING NOTICE OF FORFEITURE. THE U.S. GOVERNMENT IS SEEKING TO FORFEIT AND ASSUME OWNERSHIP OF THE CONTENTS OF ALL PRIVATELY HELD VAULTS ON THE PREMISES OF U.S. PRIVATE VAULTS, WHICH IS NOW CLOSED.”

You would think this would be national news, but instead the event got no attention. The total loot: $86 million. It included cash, coins, and jewelry. The Feds want to keep it all.

But here is another fascinating thing. That $86 million figure is what the Feds said, but look at the actual items listed in the boxes. It seems like the agents became lazy at some point and started marking everything as having the value of one dollar.

Here is just one example from one box. It had a Cartier bracelet with diamond, a Cartier bracelet “nail shape,” a diamond tennis bracelet, an 18” gold necklace, a two-tone Rolex men’s watch, another Rolex with gold and diamonds and a platinum Rolex.

Each item was valued at $1. It was the same with a tremendous amount of the gold and platinum coins that were taken. Again, each was valued at $1.

I’ve not added it all up, but we are certainly talking about a lot more than $86 million. It seems safe to add a zero to this figure. We are looking at the property of many serious people who trusted this company could keep their stuff protected and safe. Now it is all in government hands.

The owners have to beg to get it back and must prove that it is all licit.

Among those pillaged was Joseph Ruiz, an unemployed chef. He had $57,000 in cash inside his box. He had to sue to get it back. The government claimed that he made that money by running an unlicensed pot business. They further claimed that dogs had sniffed out drugs on his cash.

Ruiz produced evidence that this was not true. The FBI returned his money, without apologizing or admitting error. He told the Los Angeles Times that this was “a bank heist in broad daylight.”

They have kept everyone else’s money. Six months have gone by. Some 300 of the victims are fighting for their rights in court. The rest of the 500 or so clients have probably just given up doing anything about it."
SOURCE URL: https://dailyreckoning.com/now-theyve-crossed-the-line/


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  • Posted by Ben_C 2 years, 5 months ago
    This needs to be on Tucker Carlson's show. NOTHING is safe anymore. And now that the IRS will have the power to monitor all bank accounts with over $600 if the "Infuckstructure" bill is passed we will be on par with N Korea and China. When will the revolution begin?
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  • Posted by $ DriveTrain 2 years, 5 months ago
    As is my usual response these days, I lay blame for this primarily at the feet of Republican "leadership," wherever such may be found.

    Collectivists will be collectivists.
    Looting and murder are their stock-in-trade, and "looting is just fractional murder," to paraphrase the meme.

    But Republicans are supposed to be the ones fighting for human rights, vigorously, against these kinds of attacks. For this kind of open human rights violation to be happening in such blatant, in-your-face fashion at a time when electronics have made information readily available and easy to disseminate, is a shameful commentary on the default of those in office who are supposed to be fighting to end this kind of evil.

    And yes, that emphatically includes former President Trump, who has been a veritable poster-child for that shameful default.
    Why?

    When was the last time you heard of a Democrat-Socialist politician, pressure group or activist organization doing a half-hearted action on behalf of their evil ideology? Yeah, never. As we are seeing right now, and as we have seen for decades - those of us in the habit of looking - the collectivist crowd have always and will always "shoot for the moon," IOW they invariably pull for the most outrageous, radical maximum in the direction of irrationality, collectivism and slavery.

    Which ought to - but often doesn't - offer instruction to us non-collectivists: We, not the collectivists, have reason, morality, practicality and history on our side. They do not - yet that fact does not even slow them down. So for us to waste any opportunity to advocate for the radical maximum in the direction of reason, individualism and liberty, is as immoral in its inaction as the looter is immoral in his aggression. Trump sat on his complacent hands for four years (exactly as GWB sat on his for eight,) blithely acquiescing to the fast-track expansion of an already out-of-control government into the vast, lumbering, slobbering, umpty-trillion-dollar, Constitution-shredding, freedom-crushing leviathan pig we see bearing down on us today. And recall that it was that cipher GWB who, in September of 2008, grabbed a 700,000,000,000 figure out of his arse and lobbed it to the incoming Obama regime like a gargantuan slow-pitch softball, essentially jump-starting a reversion to the pre-Reaganomics muck of Democrat/Carter-era economic insanity. And here's a big shock: The Obama Democrats connected. And now we're back to: massive, Cloward-Piven-caliber deficit spending, burgeoning inflation, outrageous regulatory noose-tightening on every working American, the groundwork for a new global Great Depression to make the 1930s look like a weekend hangover in comparison. RINO Republicans, not the Democrats, are responsible for this. By default.

    Again, collectivists will be collectivists. They're essentially organized crime wrapped in a veneer of political normalcy and respectability.

    Republicans are supposed to be Republicans. They are supposed to be fighting for a decisive, successful return to Renaissance / Enlightenment / Founding ideals.

    Which is a distinctly different thing from: Performing meek, feckless damage-control reactions to outrageous affronts to human rights which arguably should call for all-out war before they're allowed to get within a mile of passage. Which is why we're where we are today.

    We need better politicians. Particularly politicians who dare describe themselves as "Republicans."

    [N.B.: I am, proudly, a Republican, not a Libertarian. Please do not mistake me for an LPer lobbing reflexive potshots at the GOP. I'm a Republican arguing for some serious quality-control.]

    /speech
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  • Posted by DrZarkov99 2 years, 5 months ago
    So much for all the precious metals repositories that tell you your gold, silver, platinum, etc. will be so much safer with them than if you keep it yourself. All it would take is someone declaring that some drug kingpin is hiding his wealth in a repository for everyone who kept their gold IRA metals there to lose everything.

    Everyone better get ready for the banks to bring back or increase service charges if the requirement for the banks to report every transaction over $600 goes through. I can't imagine they could just absorb the extra cost of complying otherwise.
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  • Posted by $ allosaur 2 years, 5 months ago
    No American and anything he/her has~~including his/her kids!~~is safe from control freak Marxists who run this country anymore.
    OMG! Me dino just realized I used FORBIDDEN PRONOUNS!
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  • Posted by $ Thoritsu 2 years, 5 months ago
    I'm assuming a Federal Judge issued a warrant, based on "evidence". Someone should be FOIA-ing the "evidence" and investigating the judge.

    These 4th Amendment violations need to stop. I favor a Bundy approach to guarding such a system. You can serve such a warrant... after all the evidence supporting it has been publicly disclosed and reviewed for all to see.
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  • Posted by $ 25n56il4 2 years, 5 months ago
    Well, if they just 'give up', then the government wins again and can even brag, 'See, we told you this was all illicit items. We are protecting you.' The most ridiculous words in the English language...'We're from the Federal Government and we are here to help YOU".
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    • Posted by 2 years, 5 months ago
      The reason they 'give up' is that the fedgov scumbags can use the just-us system to delay judgement forever and that will cost the innocent victims of this outrage a fortune in fees to attorneys with no guarantee they will ever get their property back. The DC scum also have used IRS audits to torture innocent people until they consent to be robbed.
      DC should be burned to the ground and all the treasonous scum therein executed for this practice alone.
      We are living in a statist dictatorship that at best gives lip service only to the rights that the constitution guarantees not to infringe.
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  • Posted by chad 2 years, 5 months ago
    With the asset forfeiture law there is nothing anywhere that could be deemed as safe from extortion (taxes) or confiscation on the flimsiest of excuses.
    Part of the reason your property can be taxed is that the government borrowed against it (bonds) without your permission, but with the permission of your neighbors who voted during the bond election. In other words the government owns your property and declares it has the right to indebt you and take your property if you do not pay. The state will send armed guards to remove you if you fail to pay.
    America failed as a constitutional republic. The government does not honor the contract that it is obligated to and now declares that it will inform you of what rights it decides you have and when.
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  • Posted by Burtb0 2 years, 5 months ago
    sad but we all saw it was coming.
    You don't really own your property. You rent it from the local Gov. thru property tax.
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    • Posted by mccannon01 2 years, 5 months ago
      I call it the "Royal Rent", which is what all the peasants in the old countries had to pay to live on their lord's land. If any of them improved the hovel they lived in, which was really owned by the lord, the Royal Rent would go up. We are peasants pretending to be a free people.
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  • Posted by lrshultis 2 years, 5 months ago
    "...limits governments’ rights..."

    When has the government of constitutional republic has anything other than permissions given it in law by the citizens? In their private lives the members of government have their rights but as government they have only permission to act. It is time to send the myth that rights and permissions are equivalent to the BS pile.
    Governments, at lease the US government, are established to protect individuals from government. Very seldom has that ever happened.
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    • Posted by mccannon01 2 years, 5 months ago
      Amen, lrshultis. It's way past time to resurrect the concept that in our Constitutional Republic government has no rights. The people have rights and government only has permissions from the people. That is the true meaning of "We The People"!
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 2 years, 5 months ago
    We're now living in Ayn Rands- Atlas Shrugged novel along with Orwell's 1984 novel. This administration is destroying our country. The President is a puppet, even many Republicans in both houses of Congress have asked that question of cabinet members who have been called to testify in Congressional committees. They have all ignored that question.
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  • Posted by CTYankee44 2 years, 5 months ago
    No property is safe if there exists anywhere some actor or agent that can destroy that property without hesitancy, guilt, or, consequence.

    This is a fundamental truth of warfare, economics, and sociology.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 2 years, 5 months ago
    Havine worked the crime beat for the local paper for a while, I was told by a cop, that drug residue can be found on a lot of money just in circulation. My brother will not put money in the bank, he does not he does not trust government. Then he became concerned, because he learned they can tell how much money you have in your house, from a van parked outsdie. You would think, since they are killing off 75% of citizens to please the UN, that they would just wait and come in then. Greedy creeps. Of course with the magnetism in the brains of the vaxed, they may be reading their thoughts about their stashed valuables.
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