Agreed!

I like your Biden/Hindenburg observation and the fact the Hitleresque character hasn't shown up yet. I'm expecting a Stalinesque waving the hammer and sickle to "save the day" after the controlled demolition is well under way. Right now, IMHO, the Neo Communists (Democrats) do look a lot more fascist than communist, but lets not get fooled here. They are communist. The tech giants remind me of Krupp and other Hitler supporters, but they will eventually be eaten by the crocodile they are feeding - a fascist will own and control them, but a communist will eat them.

There does seem to be a long way to fall, but there is acceleration involved in falling.

Which is EXACTLY the cabal plan, interrupter by Trump. Obama set the stage, and set up all the screwed crap, then Hillary was the closer for 8 years leading up to total collapse and war. Then they come out with the "we can fix it cabal of elites, with you turning over everything yu have to live where you live in a China type society. They are still trying to make it go...and succeeding in certain places, Everything byden has done has been destructive, the demonrats spend 7 trillion in one year, all designed to still cause the collapse, with the "virus" killing most. Why do you think they pushed the vaccines more than any other "vaccine that doesn't work" in history? Altruism?

Maybe by design?

Interesting topic actually. Congress I dont think would allow secession. They didnt leading up the civil war in the USA. It turned very violent, very fast. The south wanted out, but the north didnt want to let go of the wealth and the people who would leave. I dont think it had much to do with slavery actually, since the north had slaves too.

I kind of agree that the attraction of a hitler type would be strong in a collapsed country- someone who promised to make it all better....

as I remember, the withdrawal from the world of the smart hard working people WAS the way to destroy the left as portrayed in AS. I used to make medical disposables, but I sold out and stopped any further work in that field when the FDA took over regulation of medical devices. So in some small way, I went galt and changed my means of support to a much smaller business in a non regulated field. I am about ready to get rid of that one and never work again in the current biden economy. Its very depressing.

Agree. If you read current events as paralleling the first Civil War -- we're not even done with Bleeding Kansas yet. Any Harper's Ferry, much less Sumter, event is years away.

I don’t trust Tulsi. I like what she’s saying NOW. But where was that Tulsi in 2019? Just another ruling class psyop. Just like good ole’ “Based Tucker”. Nothing more than a safety valve blowing off steam.
And you are correct that there will be a Hitleresque character coming soon. Biden is literal Hindenburg. (No, not the dirigible. Read a book for God’s sake whomever thought that!)
THEY are orchestrating a controlled demolition RIGHT NOW. They are goading the extremist elements of the right to attack. It’s plain as day. The goal is justification to get more draconian. It’s gonna happen. Through actual domestic terrorism or false flag. It doesn’t matter which.
The best way to avoid a “civil” war...don’t be where it is. We need to Gulch up. If only for the purpose of preserving some islands of sanity within a sea of chaos. Look up the American Redoubt. Yes, every box of Reynolds Wrap comes with a free hat. But, after the events of the last 18months can you blame anyone for putting it on? Keep in mind it needs to get way worse before it gets better. This is only a little past apogee right now. There’s still a long way to fall.

I don't think they CAN create wealth, without us, and they hate us, but need us, the divorce would destroy them, maybe not a bad idea, or maybe just another 1776....

Recent polls have shown a majority of both left and right favoring secession. I expect that Congress would allow it, and if it does there would not be a war.

The problem with letting the system collapse first as in AS is that in real history, the people have not listened to the likes of John Galt after the collapse. They listened to Hitler.

i am thinking that the only way to stop this madness is to let the system fail as in AS, and in the meantime hide in plain sight, also as in AS. Rand was very smart.

I would go for a bloodless civil war divorce in a second. But the left wont ever agree to that, as they want all the wealth of the ones who would leave, as well as the wealth they would create in their new land

Its not, but neither is forced vaccination. That does not stop them, because they shredded it.

Because the RNC is controlled by its biggest donors. And most of them are Democrats-lite.

"Dig around, you will find all kinds of crap going on in the last 8 months with money and plane flights to all over the country, paid for by us, and for what reason?" Good points! All the taxpayer dollars just to bring the illegals in and spread them around the country is even before the great welfare state kicks in to make them comfortable. Pure partisan political spending - where's that in the Constitution?

I am not willing to give up that easily. But if the lefties insist on a national divorce they can have it.

He's mostly right. Manchin and Sinema are sort-of Republicans. Or at least they're holding the breach for now. It wouldn't surprise me if both of them continue to move toward sane positions. We may not have heard the last of Tulsi Gabbard either.

Hattrup, "Her discussion of what is right or wrong are typically dependent on morality and not the particular state of a legal system." Yes, this is true, and the link is pretty illustrative of it. I don't think she ever saw when one side used illegal immigration as a weapon, and as a way to have a corrupt system (they corrupted) enable them to use them as a means to power. That is the last 20-30 years. So, morality now HAS to take a back seat to reality, and the uncaring evil creatures who are using men, women and children as pawns are the ones guilty. That does not mean we have to just shrug and say "well, it's immoral to object". It is very moral to object to someone bringing in 7million illegals, offering amnesty so they can vote, and want us to pay for it. Dig around, you will find all kinds of crap going on in the last 8 months with money and plane flights to all over the country, paid for by us, and for what reason?

"The majority or mob deciding what you have is now theirs has little to do with immigrants/immigration." When that mob, through government bullying, has decided your wealth belongs to anyone crossing the border it does. At this point in time you can't separate the welfare state from illegal immigration. Pretending there is no link between the two is denying A = A.

I don't recall seeing any evidence that Rand, upon arrival, immediately lined up for free stuff and went on the dole.

I agree both houses are filled to the brim with treasonous looters.

The majority or mob deciding what you have is now theirs has little to do with immigrants/immigration. There is no doubt that our socialistic, income (and soon perhaps wealth) redistribution government thugs make everything dealing with freedom and rights problematical.
When Ayn responds to the question of immigration, the response seems pretty independent of what happens to be called "legal" or "illegal" immigration. Her discussion of what is right or wrong are typically dependent on morality and not the particular state of a legal system.

fortunately, the bankruptcy of their ideas when put into practice will doom them without saying anything at all. Too bad we have to live through the cultural destruction though

Tony Gonzales (R-OH) voted for it, too. House member. Unfortunately, some who seemed to be Republicans are showing their true colors. Rob Portman of Ohio thinks the infrastructure plan is great, but he won't have to deal with it because he's not running. Cowards, all of them.

A lot of them were strategically placed to be just this and to be the safety stop if we started to catch on before they could finish their plan. Remember Paul Ryan? There was a reason he did nothing for the 2 years they controlled the house. He is a traitor, but did his job.