Generals, military officers, and intelligence agencies lied to their commander-in-chief and to the American people for years about Afghanistan. A major purge is required or America dies. - Ron Paul

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""The generals and other high-ranking military officers lied to their commander-in-chief and to the American people for years about progress in Afghanistan. The same is true for the US intelligence agencies. Unless there is a major purge of those who lied and misled, we can count on these disasters to continue until the last US dollar goes up in smoke." - Ron Paul

The military industrial complex spent 20 years on the gravy train with the Afghanistan war. They built missiles, they built tanks, they built aircraft and helicopters. They hired armies of lobbyists and think tank writers to continue the lie that was making them rich. They wrapped their graft up in the American flag, but they are the opposite of patriots.

Or, as Timothy Kudo describes it,

Across two decades, our military leaders presented rosy pictures of the Afghanistan War and its prospects to the president, Congress, and the American people, despite clear internal debate about the validity of those assessments and real-time contradictory information from those fighting and losing the daily battle against the Taliban. Or, to put it in the words of John Sopko, the inspector general who issued a series of reports known as the Afghanistan Papers: “The American people have constantly been lied to.”

Nor did the military officers counsel caution or peace. Douglas MacGregor at the American Conservative correctly recalls:

All that can be said with certainty is that between 2001 and 2021, none of the senior officers expressed opposition to the policies of intervention and occupation strongly enough to warrant their removal. None felt compelled to leave the service and take their opposing views to the public forum.

When it became clear that the collective strategies and tactics in Afghanistan and Iraq were failing, not only General David Petraeus, but most of America’s senior military leaders chose to prevaricate and distort facts in public to show progress when there was none. How many American lives might have been saved had someone only told the truth will never be known."
SOURCE URL: https://mises.org/wire/pentagon-and-generals-wanted-disastrous-war

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  • Posted by $ BobCat 10 months, 1 week ago
    With all due respect to the Patriotic, America First military ( aka: The Old Guard), one has to wonder if this “New Guard” is in indeed the Deep State and Puppet Master?
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      Posted by $ allosaur 10 months, 1 week ago
      The Swamp has swollen like a corrosive cancer that has seeped not only throughout every level of big business and government but also into the leadership of our military too.
      Eisenhower warned of it, calling it the Industrial Military Complex~~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gg-jv...
      That was during his farewell speech when mention is made of "Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry" can keep everything from going to Schiff.
      Well, that's being taken care of these days.
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  • Posted by Lucky 10 months, 1 week ago
    Absolutely agree.

    But just thinking, almost off topic,
    Viet Nam. Similar, bad policy led to bad decisions, cover ups, fantasy directed day to day decisions- if there were any; humiliating defeat, disaster, loss of trust in leadership by the public and by allies. This one is worse. Allies are keeping tactfully quiet, for the moment.
    'Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it' Santayana.
    Among numerous mistakes was the utter misunderstanding, mis-characterization, (at least in public) of the enemy. The VietCong were tough. Recall, some years later China invaded Vietnam to teach them a lesson. A lesson was learned by China.

    Vietnam today. Consider, not exactly a democratic free enterprise society, but not a police state dictatorship. Looking for a place to go? Put on your list.
    Afghanistan could loosen up in the same way. I think, not, but maybe.
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    • Posted by DrZarkov99 10 months ago
      The difference is that Vietnam is not under the control of a demonic theocracy like militant Islam, in the form of the Taliban. Things will only get worse there, and it could creep into an already radical Pakistan, armed with nukes, and the nation that gave Bin Laden a hiding place.
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      • Posted by $ blarman 10 months ago
        Agreed. Vietnam has pretty much thrown off the communist dictators which have ruled for the past 40+ years. The problem is that the US hasn't been there to invest in their up-and-coming economy and China has. There are several prime ventures that China is funding - including mega-casinos for tourists - that tie them tightly to that nation. They threw off one dictatorship only to embrace another...

        As to the Taliban, Pakistan was a separation from India following WW II and so they had progressed significantly in the past few centuries as a result of British rule. Afghanistan is still wallowing in the 11th Century - they just have firearms. But they don't have the economic might to try to divery a major portion of their economy into nuclear research. Nor do they have any real estate upon which to build anything like that. Now they'll certainly train jihadists and such, but even with all the US stuff they now have, I am going to be they'll sell much of it for the money since they don't have the maintenance know-how to keep it running for any kind of military operations...
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        • Posted by DrZarkov99 10 months ago
          Fanatic insanity is unbounded by technology, and indifferent to civilized society. These same crazed ideologues assassinated one Pakistani president, and are likely to kill as many as possible to gain political control of the country. Once control is gained, the lack of experience with running a complex society is irrelevant, and the technologically experienced will have no choice but to go along if they value the lives of themselves and their families.

          We need to strengthen ties with India, as it is the only nation that borders both Pakistan and China, and advanced and strong enough to counter their hostile moves, if we back them.
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  • Posted by JohnWesley 10 months ago
    America was badly injured during the first Obama term. His relection was the death blow. Trump tried a resurrection and then came O'Biden.America is dead.
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    • Posted by term2 10 months ago
      I hope we dont get into another war in Iran, China, Russia. All three of them are emboldened now and will test to see how far they can push us. At some point, Biden will have to declare open season on one or more of them.
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  • Posted by Owlsrayne 10 months ago
    As of today August 26th, the federal government seems to be imploding under the weight of incompetency. Biden is mentally stuck that he doesn't listen to anyone. He's deteriorating before the eyes of the nation at least those who are watching his walk away report. Our Congressional legislators should be demanding who is actually running our country. This scenario is grossly Unconstitutional. The Whitehouse is an Alice in Wonderland show with the yellow brick road leading to the ruination of the USA. I and many others want to know who is behind the curtain.
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    • Posted by $ BobCat 10 months ago
      It’s truly a uniparty when all that the repubs can do is wring their hands in dismay and act shocked. Is there a Republican Party? Is there a leader in Congress? Or are they all armchair quarterbacks cringing in their leather recliners watching the team USA fumble on each successive play?
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