Israeli Study Shows Natural Immunity 13 Times More Effective Than Vaccines

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"Dr. Anthony Fauci and the rest of President Biden's COVID advisors have been proven wrong about "the science" of COVID vaccines yet again. After telling Americans that vaccines offer better protection than natural infection, a new study out of Israel suggests the opposite is true: natural infection offers a much better shield against the delta variant than vaccines.

The study was described by Bloomberg as "the largest real-world analysis comparing natural immunity - gained from an earlier infection - to the protection provided by one of the most potent vaccines currently in use." A few days ago, we noted how remarkable it was that the mainstream press was finally giving voice to scientists to criticize President Biden's push to start doling out booster jabs. Well, this study further questions the credibility of relying on vaccines, given that the study showed that the vaccinated were ultimately 13x as likely to be infected as those who were infected previously, and 27x more likely to be symptomatic."

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  • Posted by Lucky 1 month, 4 weeks ago
    There are studies and data from other sources saying the same thing-

    that immunity after recovering from the virus is higher than that the vaccines provide. The range varies, from about 5 times to 20 times, or more. The Israel study appears to have good credibility.

    Another, important point- How long does the immunity last for?
    From vaccination, about 5 months.
    Form previous infection, much longer, maybe a year, maybe many years.
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  • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 2 months ago
    The problem with "natural immunity" is that you have to get the disease first. For most people that isn't a problem, but for older people, particularly with other medical conditions that's a pretty big risk.

    A half a million people in the U.S. died getting "natural immunity".

    Vaccines let you use your natural immune system to protect you without risking dying.

    By no means should people be forced to take them and there seems to be more risk than benefit in giving them to people under 16 -- but that doesn't mean they are worthless.
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    • Posted by $ Dobrien 2 months ago
      Another problem is older people do die. That is the natural course of things. Pneumonia is a big killer. It can come from a Covid virus called a common cold. .994% survival rate is typical for the China Flu and the elderly. Take immune boosting supplements, get early treatment of ivermectin or HCQ with zinc and z-pak. Make each day a gift , it is the present after all.
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      • Posted by $ WilliamShipley 2 months ago
        I don't like the natural order of things. Nature doesn't care about individuals, it only cares about populations. As an individual I care about myself. It's not enough that "most people survive", I want to.

        Vaccines have been an amazing addition to our ability to fight disease. Objectively vaccines have save a lot of lives. Smallpox has disappeared from the planet. Polio might be.

        Now I'm on 6000 Units of Vitamin D and have been for the last couple of years. Also taking some zinc. But I also got the vaccine.

        This is not a binary issue, there are choices to be made. No vaccine is completely safe because nothing that activates the human immune system is without risk -- the 'natural' immune system can get confused and start doing damage.

        I am opposed to forcing people to get vaccinated.
        I am opposed to the false information being spread to manipulate people.
        I am opposed to the suppression of "off-label" treatments which have shown signs of being effective.
        I am NOT opposed to vaccines.
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