59 Million Americans Prohibited From Buying High-End Dell Gaming PCs (because of state energy regulations)

Posted by freedomforall 2 months, 4 weeks ago to Politics
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"Approximately 59 million Americans spanning five states can't buy Dell's high-end Alienware brand desktop PCs "due to power consumption regulations."

When one goes to the Dell Alienware online configurator to buy an Aurora R12 gaming desktop, a special notice appears which reads:

This product cannot be shipped to the states of California, Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Vermont or Washington due to power consumption regulations adopted by those states. Any orders placed that are bound for those states will be canceled."
SOURCE URL: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/59-million-americans-prohibited-buying-high-end-dell-gaming-pcs

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  • Posted by TheOldMan 2 months, 3 weeks ago
    There are many light bulbs that cannot be sold in CA for the same reason. I typically buy them online, ship them to a relative's house (free shipping) and send them a prepaid UPS label to ship them to me.
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  • Posted by $ Stormi 2 months, 3 weeks ago
    They libs have just proven, they will definitely never have power to plug in all those electric cars, no matter what they say. They do not want peple to have power. Read Dr. Ileana Paugh as she speaks of her homeland Romania which became UN Agenda 21 complaint. We are geting cloer to "Anthem" every day.
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  • Posted by mhubb 2 months, 4 weeks ago
    that's ok
    i am ONLY buying a Dell as my company swapped to them

    and they are having issues getting them
    so much for saving money...

    i'll buy a used one, Dual Xeon processors from eBay, 12 cores, 48gb ram
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    • Posted by 2 months, 4 weeks ago
      I have one of those Precision Dual Xeon machines. Cost about $300 iirc, 12 cores 24Gb 3 drives about 5 yrs ago used.
      My 3 yr old 6-core i5-8500k (homebuilt) is much faster on both single core and multi core tasks, runs cooler, and uses 40% less power though.
      The high end Dells might be of interest to serious gamers, but real throughput on other normal tasks they are not noticeably faster.
      http://Userbenchmark.com is a good site to do real world comparisons, imo.
      Gamers probably will build their own. Hard for the state to intervene.
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      • Posted by $ gharkness 2 months, 3 weeks ago
        You are not wrong, but finding even the components is difficult, as my son custom-building my newest desktop at the end of last year found out. We had to compromise a little bit, but then I'm not a gamer. What I ended up with was perfectly suited for my graphics design work, and fast as blazes; however my 6-year old Dell laptop isn't a whole lot slower, depending of course on what I am doing and how hard I push.
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        • Posted by 2 months, 3 weeks ago
          Used 3 yr old performance is fine for my needs. I decide which parts are good for my requirements (by reading independent reviews online) and then shop on Ebay for them.
          Ebay enforces a full refund on the seller if they don't work - unless they are advertised as not working. I had such a refund on a gpu and the seller didn't want it shipped back. (As it happened, it was still under warranty and the manufacturer replaced it for the cost of shipping it. I'm using it today and they sell for about $200 used on Ebay. Sometimes you win.;^)
          Used parts: Cpu, motherboard, cpu heatsink, gpu.
          I bought new memory and drives from newegg.com.
          I've been doing this for the past 10 years since there haven't been any performance breakthroughs in about 12 years. So far, so good. I had a used motherboard fail 5 years after purchase, used cpus and memory still good after 7 years (and to be sold on Ebay.)
          Software issues today may be more of a problem for me since I won't 'upgrade' to W10.
          Prices of used gpus have been affected by demand from farms of gpus being used to make cryptocurrencies. I haven't heard of other supply issues though.
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          • Posted by $ gharkness 2 months, 3 weeks ago
            Yeah, I get it. If it works for you that's very good. I just take advantage of my opportunity to use the expertise of someone who is obsessed with quality. I think eventually after he retires, he may do this sort of thing for a fun living, selling to people with more money than they know what to do with. For us, it's just a lot of fun.
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